zhunter Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 30, 31, 32 rounds in a mag, or 21, 22 in a Limited mag, no, it is not necessary, but..... Hell, the cool factor is a 10/10!!!! ALL the other kids are gonna wanna see your toy, and that alone makes it worthwhile!!! I do agree tho, in a 32 round COF, I can find a place to reload, IF I was shooting Open, which I am not. Do I have a few of the 21/22's for Limited, YOU Betcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 the limited mag is more of an interest than the open mag honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV_shooter Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I just dont see how your going to get the reliability out of something designed to hold 28-29 rounds. I also have to wonder how often you will need to replace the springs. Are Bolens Basepads/followers something special that allow an extra 2-3 rds???? you would need a mini follower and the worlds thinnest basepad to accomplish this. I'm already getting 21 in limited, and 29 in bigsticks. that is plenty and has been proven reliable for some time now. How many of you know Bolen? I know Howard Smith and I support him and trust him. If he's not goin for 31 rds, there's gotta be a really good explanation as to why not. Something to think about. What about Bevin, Dave Dawson, Bob Londigran, and the rest of the premier mag tuners? I think reliability is what we are all truly looking for. If my gun held 34 rounds but only got off 6 before the mag puked, what is my $250 mag going to win me? a match, or cool points in the safe area? I'd rather have the mags that "gleam" from from a mile away that tell other shooters... "Hey check out those HSMITH polished tubes with the custom etching."....... "Niiiiiiice"! I don't think Howard is going to jump in this thread because he's a class act, and wouldn't want to be "that guy" on the forums. Thats why I trust him. He has a proven success record and remains extremely humble. Please let me know how you like your mags after 2k+ rds. I am interested to hear about your experiences, good or bad. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I can't believe there is any resistance at all. If it works...who wouldn't want one more round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV_shooter Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 there lies the question flex, does it actually work, and for how long? I wish other mag tuners would step in and give us there unbridled opinion of what works and what does not. I listen to people I look up to and respect. I don't know bolen, so it just sounds too good to believe. That is why I would like hear about shooters experiences over time with them. thats all. Hope none is offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheiny13 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I know Bolen... and his stuff flat out runs. There is no question about that. For those that were concerned about it not being IPSC legal, he made a 3mm pad to get the 170mm limit and still hold 30 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 From what I have read he is using SPS tubes? what is the life expectancy of them? I have not seen the 9mm question answered either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I have not seen the 9mm question answered either? I e-mailed Higdon. I'm sending in SV mags and he said that there are no issues with running 9mm after the tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheiny13 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) He started playing with the SPS tubes recently but he has been getting 31 in his SV for quite some time now. Both he and I use 9mm in his mags. Edited March 25, 2008 by nheiny13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Interesting. How many rounds are you getting through them before springs etc need replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I clipped a couple of posts that were getting off track. No need to get heated folks. -Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroycollins Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I have been shooting with John.B for 2 years. And his Basepads& Followers are something special. Because John makes all of his own parts. I can have eny mags in the world . But what ever I use It will Tuned BY BOLEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ive tried other base pads and followers 29 rnds was all i could get . then switched to bolen parts 31 reloadable i have 1500 rnds through my mike voigt 9mm open gun . most of the time you may not need 31 but a few times it made the diff . maybe A / M/ GM CLASS Shooters can get by with 29 i do know . mike voigt and other top shooters have bolen tuned mags and they dont shoot with junk equipment .it comes down to who you trust .Mr bolen was not happy with what he had so he made his own . that what makes America great . my 2 cents mike slusher a15221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I will be ordering a Limited mag. It could come in handy on one of those 18-19 round stages with a lot of steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Don't take this the wrong way, but if you need a mag with more bullets .... you have already lost. It's not a matter of how many rounds you need. It's a matter of "make-up shots". If you need to make up shots you are losing time - not rounds. The real answer is SHOOT MORE ACCURATELY! ( I know easier said than done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Don't take this the wrong way, but if you need a mag with more bullets .... you have already lost. It's not a matter of how many rounds you need. It's a matter of "make-up shots". If you need to make up shots you are losing time - not rounds.The real answer is SHOOT MORE ACCURATELY! ( I know easier said than done) I completely agree but one of these days I may miss and want an extra round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I want as many rounds as I can legally carry. Stuff happens and if you have to rack slide, there goes a round. And it never happens in practice or at local match, only at the matches where you paid a lot of money. Then you'd wish you had 31+1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f250sd Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 I've been shooting with Mr. Bolen for a few years now. He has been running these mags for a while before he started tuning other peoples mags. A couple other guys I know have had theirs for a little while, with 1000's through them. Thats why I had mine done. He designed all his own parts around his tuned tubes to get the most capacity possible while maintaning reliability. And that he did. Him and some other guys run them in 9mm, I run 38SC, They all work. There is no such thing as a free reload, so why not have as many rounds as you can? And if that wasn't true we'd all be shooting 140mm mags with factory pads, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupershooterMMM Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yes it's Me from SFPC. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Don't take this the wrong way, but if you need a mag with more bullets .... you have already lost. It's not a matter of how many rounds you need. It's a matter of "make-up shots". If you need to make up shots you are losing time - not rounds.The real answer is SHOOT MORE ACCURATELY! ( I know easier said than done) Yes, I'll be sure to tell Manny Bragg that next time I see him.... after watching him take over a second off Dave Sevigny's time on two different 22 round stages in two consecutive Double Tap matches because he had 22 rounds in the gun at the start and Dave only had 21. Capacity is not a solution to a shooting problem. Capacity can be the solution to a strategy problem, and in the cases where it pays off, it makes a significant difference. Its foolish to think that an extra two rounds will make you suddenly start winning matches - but when matches are routinely won by less than a match point, and a second on a stage is worth 10 points... well, you do the math. Its not a matter of "need", its a matter of having options available in assessing a stage - sometimes the guy with more options has a faster route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Don't take this the wrong way, but if you need a mag with more bullets .... you have already lost. It's not a matter of how many rounds you need. It's a matter of "make-up shots". If you need to make up shots you are losing time - not rounds.The real answer is SHOOT MORE ACCURATELY! ( I know easier said than done) I'm not trying to fan the flames here, but this comment sounds a little funny. If it was ONLY about the shooting then why did we every get away from single stacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Anyone know how the spring attaches to the follower on this setup? Does it hook into a hole in the follower as on the grams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandbagger Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 ordered bolen follower thru Manny and i asked what kind of magspring will work with Bolen follower, Manny said grams magpring will work out fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 For all the naysayers... here it is in action! ---> 31+1 We also trialed 21+1 Limited .40 mags without problems. We even tried 22+1 successfully but will only guarantee 21+1. And, I'm guessing not many of you shot Manny Bragg's stage at Florida State '07... a 32 round mag would have won that stage outright, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I asked before...Limited legal???? APPENDIX D2 — Limited DivisionSpecial conditions: — Any complete handgun or components with a minimum production of 500 units by a factory and available to the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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