Sestock Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Here's what I've got. - 18" Fluted DPMS Mark 12 Barrel - Comp - Bolt - Charging Handle - Gas Tube I am going to get a CMT upper. Handguard - Options I am leaning towards either a V-tac or a YHM Lightweight - any opinions Gas Block - What should I get What else am I forgetting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) TI bolt carrier jim PS in my experiance....The Vtac is very rigid I use it on many of my builds Edited February 9, 2008 by GentlemanJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 TI bolt carrierjim PS in my experiance....The Vtac is very rigid I use it on many of my builds Sorry, Jim, I'd advise a carbon fiber handguard. I got tired of wearing a glove. The carbon fiber handguard doesn't get hot, well not very quickly. Certainly not as fast as aluminum. But, then, I'm not a "Tacticool" kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 [quote name='GentlemanJim' date='Feb 8 2008, 07:47 PM' post='702092 PS in my experiance....The Vtac is very rigid I use it on many of my builds I have never run into that particular problem. Must be age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Is the DPMS cheaper than the JP 18"? Got pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 JP pretty much makes and sells the best of everything. I happen to think the V-Tac is the nicest handguard out there. Torn between the JP lightweight SS carrier and the new titanium beauty from Progressive Machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Sestock: Use the JP gas block...adjustable and can be used for an iron front sight if needed. You can adjust the gas any way you want and for your loads. I took all the weights out of the buffer to cycle the carrier quicker, then turned the gas off and using my lighest bullet/load shot 3 rounds, adjusted the gas and did this until the gun ejected and ran, then opened the gas screw about a half a turn more and locked it down. Not one problem all last season and it feels great. JP makes great stuff. His VTac handguard is very good but if you use JP's cooling fins the handguards get hotter quicker. I guess for a cooler barrel the heat has to go somewhere. Even in the Iron-Man the handguard is still ok without gloves. Hope this helps, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topmaul Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) I am building an AR too, starting from the back fixed ACE stock SNS Lower special order CAA pistol Grip Single Stage trigger group Olympic K-16 upper PK-01 red dot Currently waiting for parts (and funds not doing this on credit card thing saving up for everything skipping lunch or eating canned tuna) Edited February 17, 2008 by Topmaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar15performance Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 TI bolt carrierjim PS in my experiance....The Vtac is very rigid I use it on many of my builds Sorry, Jim, I'd advise a carbon fiber handguard. I got tired of wearing a glove. The carbon fiber handguard doesn't get hot, well not very quickly. Certainly not as fast as aluminum. But, then, I'm not a "Tacticool" kind of guy. I like carbon too, Pri's has a heat sheild inside but, it is high dollar. The 4 rail tubes are good for hanging up on everything. Most people are adding carrier weights so why pay twice as much for a Ti carrier and then add more weight? I haven't had a carrier break in 15 years so I don't think strength is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 A heavy carrier is not the hot ticket in our sport. Vtac is not a quad rail...its smooth I dont understand why you need a glove?? I have shot fast stages close to 100 rnds ...and didnt get burnt. Not to say I have not had an AR or M16 hot enough to light a cigarette on. But most of our shooting is less demanding. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Weidhaas Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 My son's rifle has a carbon fiber (clark) handguard and mine a JP Vtac. The JP Vtac stays much cooler in high rnd cound / fast shooting stages. I'll probably swap his forearm out for a Vtac at some point. Initially we went CF for the weight, but since he grew almost 6" last year (age 14), it is no longer an issue . My recommendation would be the Vtac. Nick- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 My son's rifle has a carbon fiber (clark) handguard and mine a JP Vtac. The JP Vtac stays much cooler in high rnd cound / fast shooting stages. I'll probably swap his forearm out for a Vtac at some point. Initially we went CF for the weight, but since he grew almost 6" last year (age 14), it is no longer an issue . My recommendation would be the Vtac. Nick- I guess I'll try one on the next rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar15performance Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) A heavy carrier is not the hot ticket in our sport.Vtac is not a quad rail...its smooth I dont understand why you need a glove?? I have shot fast stages close to 100 rnds ...and didnt get burnt. Not to say I have not had an AR or M16 hot enough to light a cigarette on. But most of our shooting is less demanding. Jim Was talking about rails on a YHM in the OP. Light carriers and fast carrier speeds damage AR bolts in every shooting sport but, you could tame it with an adjustable gas block. I see that the carriers are just TI coated so it is for friction and that cool gold cold huh? Edited February 18, 2008 by ar15performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walangkatapat Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Here's what I've got.- 18" Fluted DPMS Mark 12 Barrel - Comp - Bolt - Charging Handle - Gas Tube I am going to get a CMT upper. Handguard - Options I am leaning towards either a V-tac or a YHM Lightweight - any opinions Gas Block - What should I get What else am I forgetting? Do you have a link for that DPMS barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 A heavy carrier is not the hot ticket in our sport.Vtac is not a quad rail...its smooth I dont understand why you need a glove?? I have shot fast stages close to 100 rnds ...and didnt get burnt. Not to say I have not had an AR or M16 hot enough to light a cigarette on. But most of our shooting is less demanding. Jim Was talking about rails on a YHM in the OP. Light carriers and fast carrier speeds damage AR bolts in every shooting sport but, you could tame it with an adjustable gas block. I see that the carriers are just TI coated so it is for friction and that cool gold cold huh? NO not tacticool BS!!!....real TI...6al-4v Sorry...your comment on hand guards ...made me think you ment the Vtac. In our game we sometimes beat our equipment pretty hard ...to gain an edge. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar15performance Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 A heavy carrier is not the hot ticket in our sport.Vtac is not a quad rail...its smooth I dont understand why you need a glove?? I have shot fast stages close to 100 rnds ...and didnt get burnt. Not to say I have not had an AR or M16 hot enough to light a cigarette on. But most of our shooting is less demanding. Jim Was talking about rails on a YHM in the OP. Light carriers and fast carrier speeds damage AR bolts in every shooting sport but, you could tame it with an adjustable gas block. I see that the carriers are just TI coated so it is for friction and that cool gold cold huh? NO not tacticool BS!!!....real TI...6al-4v Sorry...your comment on hand guards ...made me think you ment the Vtac. In our game we sometimes beat our equipment pretty hard ...to gain an edge. Jim Are you making these TI carriers? YM has changed their match carriers and I am looking for a better carrier and hopefully one that is .002-.004 larger in dia. than a standard carrier. I was going through 10-20 uppers and carriers to match up that correct fit and it gets worse every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2fast Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Are you making these TI carriers? YM has changed their match carriers and I am looking for a better carrier and hopefully one that is .002-.004 larger in dia. than a standard carrier. I was going through 10-20 uppers and carriers to match up that correct fit and it gets worse every year. Progressive is making the TI Carriers: http://www.progressivemachine.net/products.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestock Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 With the JP Handguard do you need delta rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 With the JP Handguard do you need delta rings? No the delta ring and barrel nut are omitted The JP comes with its own barrel nut....its a very nice set up. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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