TBF Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Anyone seen or shot one of these? Based on AK style action 12ga. semi w/ detatchable mag. Could be great, or not... Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 based on what I saw( did'nt shoot it, did'nt want to)more likely not. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 See one? I just bought one! Actually it is in 20 gauge. Here is the scoop: NOTE LIMIMTED LIMITED LIMITED!! (read on). Its a typical AK design, it is VERY reliable. THere is an adjustable 2 position gas system. If the shooter does not adjust it for light loads, and the gun jams, then that is the shooters fault. Beyond that, these guns WORK. Also, the 20 I have recoils less and shoots flatter than my limited SX2. It fits me fine. As for individual shotgun "fit" perhaps an English BE member can explain the importance of this. Now the downside: 5 round mags. You thought the magazine limit under the clinton ban was 10? So did I. Not for semi-auto shotguns w/ detachable mags (no, not the tube type fixed mags). You saw the 10 round shotgun drum adds in Shotgun News? Those are only for pumps. Adapt one of those to a semi and you may just end up in Club Fed. You cannot buy or build the 8 round mags for a Saiga shotgun; there were supposedly some Russian 8 rounders out there and I looked. Forget about it. You WILL be stuck w/ 5 rounders (6 rounds loaded at the beep). So here is the test for LIMITED only: from an empty gun, can you load and shoot 9 rounds out of an SX2, 1100, benelli LIMITED gun FASTER than you could load and fire 2 mags full out of the Saiga? Maybe w/ lotsa practice you could. I have not managed to do it yet. In theory its possible to load 2 mags into the gun faster than 9 shells. This gun cost me $160 from CDNN vs. $800 for my SX2. Is it the answer for limited? you decide. BTW, this discussion applies only to LIMITED; I don't screw around w/ that open stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I guess this just shows that you can make a purse out of a sows ear (allbeit maybe not a silk purse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I saw a guy shooting one at the last 3-gin match I shot. I was wanting to give one a try until then......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Singlestack: More info please. Was the gun itsself faulty or was the operator a part of the problem? KURT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 saw a guy shoot one at SMM kurt, could not engage enough target's w/o a flat footed reload. maybe reload's will be fast but his was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 So...maybe without government regulation ( mag limit), the system could be workable? Anybody in other countries using it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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