jobob Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 My problem is that under tension the top round nosedives ever so slightly and non-pointed bullets get caught on the front of the mag body. This is not a problem for ball or the v-maxes that I normally compete with, but it does stop a mag loaded with smk's or my favorite hornady 75 MHPs. Nevertheless, I would feel the need to shoot the heck out of one to trust it for anything other than range work. Given the experience of everyone I have read however, I think it would work just fine. Perhaps with time the spring would relax a bit and the tension problem would sort itself out. How old are your mags? They had a problem with early versions, which was fixed in mags dated 04/07 or later. Or so I'm told. The date is in a tiny dial just below the mag catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan m Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 My problem is that under tension the top round nosedives ever so slightly and non-pointed bullets get caught on the front of the mag body. This is not a problem for ball or the v-maxes that I normally compete with, but it does stop a mag loaded with smk's or my favorite hornady 75 MHPs. Nevertheless, I would feel the need to shoot the heck out of one to trust it for anything other than range work. Given the experience of everyone I have read however, I think it would work just fine. Perhaps with time the spring would relax a bit and the tension problem would sort itself out. How old are your mags? They had a problem with early versions, which was fixed in mags dated 04/07 or later. Or so I'm told. The date is in a tiny dial just below the mag catch. Just checked... 5/07. I'm thinking I could take a dremel to it and fix this without hurting anything, but it seems like they would take care of this little issue themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 It would appear that there have been other problems with these mags. I don't know if this is the cause of your feeding problem or not, but it looks like Magpul is having a recall. They are a stand up company that supports their products and their customers. http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?ma...products_id=271 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Gladstone Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Used them at PA Rife Championship today with no problems. It was the first time during a match. I found them easy speed reload during a stage. Over 222 rounds under match conditions should be a good test . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Anyone else monopod off the PMAG? I have two of the PMAGs and I monopoded off of both of them at the PA Rifle Match at Topton this past weekend w/o any problems. Was using 55gr FMJ Ultramax remanuactured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I've monopodded maybe another 100 to 150 rounds off my "defective" (by datecode) P-Mags after my last post. Nary a hiccup. I'm almost reluctant to take Magpul up on the tube exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerjg Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 It would appear that there have been other problems with these mags. I don't know if this is the cause of your feeding problem or not, but it looks like Magpul is having a recall. They are a stand up company that supports their products and their customers.http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?ma...products_id=271 I haven't had any problems w/ any of mine as of yet. They all covered under this recall. I wasnt going to perticipate in the recall but how can i loose. I can referb my one month old PMAGs and get new bodies for them. When the replacements arrive ill post any differences if i can find any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 only difference I could see was that the feed lips are a little shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I have several of these mags which I'm going to use for the first time tomorrow or next day. I've done the test by loading them with 20+ rounds and pushing down. They pop back up, so all should be well. If there are no problems I doubt that I'll participate in the exchange. Although getting some new mag bodies for $5/each sounds interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 brownells now offers there mags with the Magpul followers and base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I just had an LEO AR class thrash a bunch of the PMags. If you have old date-code PMags, send them in. I had no problems with those mags in my Colt, CMT/Stag or LMT rifles. But using them in my parts guns, they were pickier. The same with the officers in the class. Colt rifles, and mil-spec clones, no problem. Parts guns, or other brand,s some problems with some mags. So, 50+ PMags go back. Except the "01/07" mag. That stays here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Is the 01/07 a collector's item? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Pre-production run. I managed to wheedle one from Magpul at the end of the SHOT show so I could test it and write it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Cool! So, I'm a retired LEO and need a part time job. Can I come work for you and help test things that go bang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Actually the job is open to anyone *except* tupperware-packing, puddle pirate game wardens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Allright Eric! Them's fightn' words! Ha! Speaking of packing tupperware, your TruGrip is holding up pretty well. At least, it's pretty good for something that comes from a dog lovin', scattergunin', bird killin' Spokandandy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Ok. I just received a handfull of the new mag bodies from the exchange program. I swapped out the guts in them and took a couple to the range today. I did notice that I was able to load the last 4 or 5 rounds much easier with the new mags. I monopodded off the two mags I brought with without any problems at all for about 225 rounds, including one mag of Wolf. The gun was a standard DPMS 16" carbine. I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I used my old date (bad) mags at the NW Multi-Gun last weekend. They worked 100%. No issues at all. I even "monopodded" on a couple of stages with no problem. I am participating in the exchange, though. When my new bodies get here I'll send these back, even though I've had no problem with them. Better safe than sorry, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 What's the latest on these mags? Are the early production bugs now fixed. Are they a better mousetrap than than USGI with a Magpul follower? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) I just installed 5 of the new bodies. The "bad" bodies were dated 05/07. The replacement bodies are *definitely* an improvement. I had zero malfs with the "bad" mags, but the 07/07 mag bodies appear to be the bombproof solution. There's enough difference that I'm actually going to return the mag bodies and buy more mags, rather than keep them as spares as I originally planned. The change was in how the plastic fills the mold. The pre-0707 mags had only one point where the plastic entered, at the seam at the upper 1/3 of the mag body. The new mags have two gating points, top and bottom. The result is a mag body that is more dimensionally correct. I think they underestimated the pressure drop across the mag. Interestingly enough, there are no cavity marks on the mags, which makes me wonder if MagPul only has a single, one cavity tool for all the production. That would explain the long delay in getting mags. Edited August 13, 2007 by EricW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) I just installed 5 of the new bodies. The "bad" bodies were dated 05/07. The replacement bodies are *definitely* an improvement. I had zero malfs with the "bad" mags, but the 07/07 mag bodies appear to be the bombproof solution. There's enough difference that I'm actually going to return the mag bodies and buy more mags, rather than keep them as spares as I originally planned.The change was in how the plastic fills the mold. The pre-0707 mags had only one point where the plastic entered, at the seam at the upper 1/3 of the mag body. The new mags have two gating points, top and bottom. The result is a mag body that is more dimensionally correct. I think they underestimated the pressure drop across the mag. Interestingly enough, there are no cavity marks on the mags, which makes me wonder if MagPul only has a single, one cavity tool for all the production. That would explain the long delay in getting mags. Thanks Eric. So is it a better mousetrap in some ways than a USGI mag with a Magpul follower? Also, if I order some from Brwonells now, would they be the latest and greatest? Thx. Edited August 13, 2007 by chp5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksh8me Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 This sounds like someone is waving a shinny nickel if front of some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Gladstone Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I just used 4 of them at a rifle match in York PA. They worked perfectly and dropped free. One stage envolved shooting from a bench at 20 plates at 200 yards. Monopodded with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I just installed 5 of the new bodies. The "bad" bodies were dated 05/07. The replacement bodies are *definitely* an improvement. I had zero malfs with the "bad" mags, but the 07/07 mag bodies appear to be the bombproof solution. There's enough difference that I'm actually going to return the mag bodies and buy more mags, rather than keep them as spares as I originally planned.The change was in how the plastic fills the mold. The pre-0707 mags had only one point where the plastic entered, at the seam at the upper 1/3 of the mag body. The new mags have two gating points, top and bottom. The result is a mag body that is more dimensionally correct. I think they underestimated the pressure drop across the mag. Interestingly enough, there are no cavity marks on the mags, which makes me wonder if MagPul only has a single, one cavity tool for all the production. That would explain the long delay in getting mags. Thanks Eric. So is it a better mousetrap in some ways than a USGI mag with a Magpul follower? Also, if I order some from Brwonells now, would they be the latest and greatest? Thx. I think it's a better mousetrap all the way around. A NHMTG mag is $13, bends, will eventually crack at the feedlips if left loaded, and has no warranty. The MagPul is $15, damned near indestructible, and if there's an issue, MagPul issues the recall before you have time to realize that there is an issue. No clue on Brownell's stock since I bought mine from 44 mag. I think it's a zero risk proposition as MagPul promptly sent me 10 new tubes no money down. And I've done the Forbidden Monopod on my MagPul mags like crazy and have had zero stoppages. I think a lot of "Mag Issues" are really "Parts Gun AR Issues." Just my opinion based on my very limited experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 This sounds like someone is waving a shinny nickel if front of some of you. If you call this kind of performance a shiny nickel.....I'll buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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