D.Hayden Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 In all the discussions about the 2008 rule book, I had overlooked the 2007 changes. http://www.uspsa.org/rules/1911_Single_Sta...2006_Update.pdf The DOH is already illegal in SS now right? But the mag pouches won't change until the 2008 (if ratified) rules? And USPSA will be changing the classification in SS for some people soon? (Open 'A', Limited 'B' - SS will be 'B'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 In all the discussions about the 2008 rule book, I had overlooked the 2007 changes.http://www.uspsa.org/rules/1911_Single_Sta...2006_Update.pdf The DOH is already illegal in SS now right? But the mag pouches won't change until the 2008 (if ratified) rules? And USPSA will be changing the classification in SS for some people soon? (Open 'A', Limited 'B' - SS will be 'B'). Dave, Yup, many people missed this! And yup, the dreaded DOH is out for '07. (The WSSSC will be using the new rules so the DOH is out there) Pouches are the same and can be 2" from your torso. And yup, I just got demoted to C class from B class Later, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Chuck.. did your USPSA classification on the web site already? The one I checked (doesn't apply to me), still showed SS the same as Open. I bought the DOH adapter, just need to put it on right away now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Damn Chuck you are good, going backwards in Classification On another note are you going to the USPSA Single Stack Nationals/Single Stack Classic this year? Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Dave, The website probably won't be updated until they do the classifier run around 13 January. I got into production in Dec 05 and ordered a DOH for my newly ordered SP-01 then. Since I was ordering stuff I got a new belt and stuff for PSSD also. For some reason that escapes me now I did not get the DOH for the 1911. I got a COMP-TAC instead. In retospect, it was a good move. Are you going to the WSSSC? Later, Chuck Damn Chuck you are good, going backwards in Classification On another note are you going to the USPSA Single Stack Nationals/Single Stack Classic this year? Alan Yeah, it's the only new rule that I can agree with totally! Nope, won't be making the SS Nats. I have a bunch of job travel and a serious 25th wedding anniversary trip coming up and I won't be able to fit it in. Besides, I grew up in Illinoizz. The weather can really suck that time of year! The WSSSC will be the only major SS match for me this year. In fact, I will be going back to open in Feb. Later, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Chuck, Have fun with the job related travel and especially that 25th anniversary. We'll see you on a range somewhere Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 One question.. does it say somewhere when these rules actually take/took affect? I think it would be more clear on the USPSA site if it said, in effect starting '1/1'2007' etc. I'm thinking since it's in the rules, they're in affect now, but it's about the only one that doesn't ratified by the board on 'xx/xx'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 One question.. does it say somewhere when these rules actually take/took affect?I think it would be more clear on the USPSA site if it said, in effect starting '1/1'2007' etc. I'm thinking since it's in the rules, they're in affect now, but it's about the only one that doesn't ratified by the board on 'xx/xx'. It's there, it's just that it is buried in the BOD minutes From the BOD minutes from 21-22 October 2006: Motion: To adopt changes to provisional Single Stack rules effective 1/1/2007 Moved by Area 4 Seconded by Area 5 Passed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtsvi Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 It appears that the light rail has been removed from the SS equipment rules section. Now you can shoot your TLE's and Desert Warriors in USPSA. If I read this right then I applaud the decision to allow light railed guns to compete. I never understood the reasoning behind the decision to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 USPSA Go here and express your comments. All help is appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 It appears that the light rail has been removed from the SS equipment rules section. Now you can shoot your TLE's and Desert Warriors in USPSA. If I read this right then I applaud the decision to allow light railed guns to compete. I never understood the reasoning behind the decision to begin with. I think there were a couple of reasons for this: #!- the 1911 with the light rail was not of original design. (but then again neither was the adjustable sites and many other ideas that have evolved over time. #2- The extra steel on the dust cover was considered by some to be a competitive advantage since it added weight to the front end of the gun. I dont own or shoot a 1911 with a light rail on it, but I'm glad they changed this rule to allow those that have a light rail to come join in on the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I dont own or shoot a 1911 with a light rail on it, but I'm glad they changed this rule to allow those that have a light rail to come join in on the fun. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I wonder if the light rail will make it more difficult to "make weight"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) I measured and weighed the Kimber Warrior. The light rail measurement is actually based on it with a fudge factor added in. It was the longest light rail I could find. It weighed 41.9 ounces with empty magazine inserted on a set of produce scales which are certified by the state to be correct. Hope this helps. Gary Edited January 25, 2007 by Gary Stevens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Looks like I will be working as CRO on one of the stages at the Single Stack Nationals, although I don't know which one. Please stop by and say Hi!!! Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bell Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 As I read it, Single Stack was introduced as a provisional division and is now being modified. Perhaps it's because I don't understand the process, but when does SS quite being provisional and become actual . . . or whatever the right words are? Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 This is the second year of the test process. The test process will end at the end of 2008 with hopefully a complete set of rules in place at that time. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCK Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Maybe I overlooked it but I cant seem to find anything defining magazine release rules. Can I put an oversized button or "paddle" on my SS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Gary, Under the proposed rule changes, would magazine holder like the safariland 773 and an outer belt like the cr speed belt still be legal under USPSA rules? Thanks for your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Steve, The long answer is "yes" Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Gary, THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING!!!! It is MUCH appreciated!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergie Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I understand that the DOH holster is illegal as of 1/1/07 for SS. What about a holster that is just off-set but not dropped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Does the holster fit the rest of the rules? Front strap of the gun at or above the top of the belt? Does it meet the current 50mm rule? Is it not cut father than 1/2 inch below the ejection port? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergie Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thanks Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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