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I've got a 20" AR but it is setup more for coyotes, and accuracy work. I have a Armalite NM 20" SS barrel, YHM ff railed handguards with a RRA 2 stage trigger. It has YHM flip up front sight and rear. Its not the lightest thing in the world either lol. I'm guessing this will work for now, right?

As far as shot gun I got nothing other than my clay shooting 1100 safe queen. I was thinking of trying to find a 870 or 11-87 used for cheap and useing that.

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On the rifle, are you saying that you have two? If so, the first with some more info might be the better bet. Shooting iron sights is tough enough. Doing it with flip ups is pretty well a kick in the groin. While most shots you should be alright, I don't trust flip-up BUIS for anything over 100 yards. My duty M-4 was issued with a M-68 and standard FSB. For a rear, I have a basic modified detchable carry handle rear peep that will go on if my ACOG ever goes down (doubt it). The front sight is already zeroed (close enough to matter anyways).

My point is that why try and compete with a rifle who's sights move (especially YHM's that move when "locked"). If you want to shoot irons then get real iron sights. If you want to shoot optics and have BUIS, then get a good piece of glass and roll with that.

As for the shotgun, use whatever runs.

Rich

ETA: Do a search as this subject of 'how to get started' (and similar) has been pretty well beat up.

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Absolutely no reason whatsoever that beastie can't be competitive if you can drive it competitively ;-)

I useta' run an AR that weighed in at over 13 lbs to stabilize it before the advent of the LMOS. It is still in that same config as my backup Open gun and it still shoots just fine. I could drive it pretty much as well as my newer JP CTR if I had to use it instead. I doubt I would drop anything significant by using it, the JP just feels better and cost more and is newer.

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+1 on George and bigdawg's comments. Run what you got. Make sure that they run well and you know where they each shoot. I get embarrassed for some folks... Oh, do dry drills on loading and running the gun - match days are too rare to wait until then to practice,

If you have big fun, then figure out what you want the rifle and shotgun to be, and do that.

Billski

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+1 on George and bigdawg's comments. Run what you got. Make sure that they run well and you know where they each shoot. I get embarrassed for some folks... Oh, do dry drills on loading and running the gun - match days are too rare to wait until then to practice,

If you have big fun, then figure out what you want the rifle and shotgun to be, and do that.

Billski

Well I shot my first rifle shotgun stages today....I'm hooked. I borrowed a buddies benelli nova pump as I don't have anything but I got to see some tricked out semi autos as well. I think I'll look for a good deal on a 870 or one of those benellis as I don't have a pump and want one and run the AR as is for now. I had the 2nd most points but I need to do it faster out of the tactical and standard divisions. I put myself in the tac instead of the standard division and screwed myself there...oh well I had fun.

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See if you can find one of the 23" Remington Special Field 1100's do some basic reliability work on it, a 5 round exstension on it (your capacity will be 8 in the mag) and put an Easyloader on it. You will have a great little lmited shotgun..

Forgot to add - Put on a standard butt stock the englist stock on the SF guns make them hard to hold when you are hammering away.

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+1 on the Special Field 1100 , even better would be the older ones with 21 inch barrels . If that isnt possible look around for an 1100 that you can cut down until you can afford a barrel with interchangeable chokes . I was slumming around the gun shops yesterday and saw 2 or 3 1100's with extended magazines and some other stuff that would have worked fine for 3-gun and they were all in the 500 dollar range . IMO the only 3 things that are must haves on an 1100 , a side saddle , an easyloader and an extended mag tube . Evertything else is just pimpin .

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+1 on the Special Field 1100 , even better would be the older ones with 21 inch barrels . If that isnt possible look around for an 1100 that you can cut down until you can afford a barrel with interchangeable chokes . I was slumming around the gun shops yesterday and saw 2 or 3 1100's with extended magazines and some other stuff that would have worked fine for 3-gun and they were all in the 500 dollar range . IMO the only 3 things that are must haves on an 1100 , a side saddle , an easyloader and an extended mag tube . Evertything else is just pimpin .

I've been looking for something with a 22-21 inch barrel so I can have the 8+1 capacity. All I'm coming up with is 20 inchers like my 870 or 24 inchers. I thought the limit was 22 for limited?

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22 inches is the rule for most 3-gun competitions outside of USPSA . Internal to USPSA there is no barrel length restrictions in the Standard division .

You can however buy the barrel that comes on the Competition Master or Tactical shotguns directly from Remington if yo have to have a 22 inch barrel .

My first 3-gun shotgun was a Special field with a 21 inch barrel and teh mag tube actually stuck out past the end of the barrel a few inches . Looked a little goofy but worked great . I believe the guy I sold it to is still shooting it in this configuration . I actually liked the straight comb english style stock .

If you want me to I can run down to the store where I saw 2 1100's that were set up already for around 500 bucks , take some pics of them and send them to you . I am sure they would be more than happy to ship them as they do quite a bit of business via the internet .

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22 inches is the rule for most 3-gun competitions outside of USPSA . Internal to USPSA there is no barrel length restrictions in the Standard division .

You can however buy the barrel that comes on the Competition Master or Tactical shotguns directly from Remington if yo have to have a 22 inch barrel .

My first 3-gun shotgun was a Special field with a 21 inch barrel and teh mag tube actually stuck out past the end of the barrel a few inches . Looked a little goofy but worked great . I believe the guy I sold it to is still shooting it in this configuration . I actually liked the straight comb english style stock .

If you want me to I can run down to the store where I saw 2 1100's that were set up already for around 500 bucks , take some pics of them and send them to you . I am sure they would be more than happy to ship them as they do quite a bit of business via the internet .

I appreciate the offer but the shops around here are real D!cks about recieaving guns like that. They expect me to pay 200$ more from them. I'm sure I'll run upon a used 1100 fairly cheap and would like to start piecing that together along with my dedicated 3 gun AR. If you have a part number for the CM or tactical from remington I would like to have that.

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The barrel part number is 240508 . Comes with a Modified choke tube and the price is 196.00 . You can go to Remington's http://www.remington.com/support/parts/ and click on the parts price list . That will bring up a list of all the parts and the prices for them . It is by model number so you gotta scroll way down to get to the 1100 parts .

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The barrel part number is 240508 . Comes with a Modified choke tube and the price is 196.00 . You can go to Remington's http://www.remington.com/support/parts/ and click on the parts price list . That will bring up a list of all the parts and the prices for them . It is by model number so you gotta scroll way down to get to the 1100 parts .

Thats the blued one right not the OD?

Muchas Gracias!!

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