New Targets

[gm iprod]

I have had made some 100mm balck pasters to use on old targets to look like the new target, as I have 300 or so old targets once fired. Shot on them informally day after Christmas. Not that impressed, with my effort as the target appeared very busy and the dot just sucked you in. Way too much time looking at the bloody thing. I have had 8 weeks off shooting due to promise made to lady of the house, so was not expecting miracles but this was crap.

Finally got some decent practice done today, January 1. Much better, range was very hot, fairly humid and bright sun directly overhead, so the rings were completely obscured, but the big black blob was way visible.

Shot a pair of 480 practicals. High x count on both. But a couple of worrying stray ones at 25 and 50. I am sure it was me looking at the black dot and not the red one in the scope.

Plates was also way better and a real confidence booster now we can go prone at 20 again. Very tidy and all in good time. The standing has helped with the sight alignment I am sure, as you had to wait for the dot, but prone you just seem to have more time now.

Barricade was brilliant just line it up and let rip. Once you got a good grip you were sorted.

I was not too keen on the black dot idea, and my first shoot on them seemed to confirm my suspicions. But after some proper practice and a better look at them I believe it is not all bad. I still prefer the old target but this will level the playing field as far as shooting times in poor light are concerned.

I may owe Martin J a beer.

[Alan550]

For the last couple of matches at our club, I cut the center out of a target and used it as a template to spray-paint the center dots on all the targets. Feedback from the shooters was very positive. General consensus seemed to be that the longer distance shooting was enhanced by having something to aim at. Negative feedback included that hits are harder to see if there's no back-lighting. Most shooters had been accustomed to being able to see holes in the target to aim at from the longer distances, and with the black centers, the previous shots in the X-ring just seem to disappear.

As you said, it does make things more even for differing lighting conditions, and I see that as a positive thing. AP was the only NRA discipline with no aiming point on the target, which, since it's an accuracy game, didn't make sense anyway......IMHO

Alan~^~

[Allgoodhits]

For the last couple of matches at our club, I cut the center out of a target and used it as a template to spray-paint the center dots on all the targets. Feedback from the shooters was very positive. General consensus seemed to be that the longer distance shooting was enhanced by having something to aim at. Negative feedback included that hits are harder to see if there's no back-lighting. Most shooters had been accustomed to being able to see holes in the target to aim at from the longer distances, and with the black centers, the previous shots in the X-ring just seem to disappear.

As you said, it does make things more even for differing lighting conditions, and I see that as a positive thing. AP was the only NRA discipline with no aiming point on the target, which, since it's an accuracy game, didn't make sense anyway......IMHO

Alan~^~

I think the BLACK X ring will be welcomed by most shooters, but will serve as a hassle and added expense to Match Directors until supply of D-1's are used up. Another obstacle is we have to buy black pasters now. ( I plan to need a lot of those! ) Alan, the PPC guys still use the B-27 and it is all black. Try that one with iron sights!

So, the next "stunt" from the NRA will probably be, since the shooters liked the black aiming area so much, we have decided that the Falling Plates should be painted black too.

HAPPY NEW YEAR and HAPPY NEW YEAR + a day to our friends afar.

Martin

p.s. I hear that Doug and Bruce are having a sale on brown pasters as they will no longer need them!

[M118LR]

I guess I have not be keeping up with the times. There is a new target for the Bianchi Cup? Does anyone have an photos of it?

[BigDave]

If it is the same target we shot on the Invitational Mover it is the same D1/Tombstone, but it has a solid black X ring (4") and then the perf for the 10 ring and 8 ring are black also.

[gm iprod]

Dave,

New target is as per the side matches at BC 2006.

I just had some 100mm black dots made. I will use these as X-ring pasters and aiming points. One patch for all the X's, you will still need some buff pasters for anything that is not fully in the X. Then over patch with the black one.

I will not be putting the black rings on my old / used targets as I don't see the need. The perforations are where they should be and I don't intend to be using them

I will be bringing some of my black patches to make as much use of any targets I need for BC 2007.

[goldfieldshooter]

Hi Y'all

We are only looking at one of the new rules here and as Richard says it is good to shoot on and there IS an option to use up all your D1 targets. The patches WE had made up are 100mm and just fit inside the X ring and leaves the perforations visible for scoring.

The 10 & 8 rings are not aiming points, only scoring rings, so for practice, non-sanctioned matches, etc the stickers are just the ticket.

Martin:-As we in New Zealand would not use 2000 new AP targets a year, to have the target change forced on us made us think outside the square because to pay $5 - $6 a target for low volume runs would kill our sport. These patches are costing us

0.6c each and can be used as pasters to resurrect shot targets. (Ideal for Bruce & Doug).

What are the thoughts on the other rule changes? ie:- Option of prone for all from 15Yds back on plates & prac, knuckle up on barricade?

Alan:- If you can't see the holes in a black centre at 50yds; join the club. Most of us old f**ts can't and if you read the posts on the World shoot in Aussie you will be aware that in their conditions we couldn't see the holes OR the rings at 10yds.

See you all soon

BC 2007

Coatesy

[Allgoodhits]

Ian see below:

Hi Y'all

We are only looking at one of the new rules here and as Richard says it is good to shoot on and there IS an option to use up all your D1 targets. The patches WE had made up are 100mm and just fit inside the X ring and leaves the perforations visible for scoring.

The 10 & 8 rings are not aiming points, only scoring rings, so for practice, non-sanctioned matches, etc the stickers are just the ticket.

Martin:-As we in New Zealand would not use 2000 new AP targets a year, to have the target change forced on us made us think outside the square because to pay $5 - $6 a target for low volume runs would kill our sport. These patches are costing us

0.6c each and can be used as pasters to resurrect shot targets. (Ideal for Bruce & Doug).

That's a great price for 100mm (4") paster. My recall was the Xring size brown pasters were about .20 or was it .50 each

What are the thoughts on the other rule changes? ie:- Option of prone for all from 15Yds back on plates & prac, knuckle up on barricade?

I have always thought that the match rules should permit shooters to fire the same match in the same manner, regardless of their choice of firearm.

Alan:- If you can't see the holes in a black centre at 50yds; join the club. Most of us old f**ts can't and if you read the posts on the World shoot in Aussie you will be aware that in their conditions we couldn't see the holes OR the rings at 10yds.

See you all soon

BC 2007

Coatesy

Edited January 2, 2007 by Allgoodhits

[Action Pistolero]

We just cut out the center of one target and use it to paint the other x rings black. If all else fails a sharpie around the 10 and 8 rings will do.