tobydog Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 I know that you can't use tools to clear a gun malfunction, but is it legal to de-cock the hammer using a tool before you holster? I have arthritis in both of my thumbs and fore finger joints, and some days my grip isn't what it should be. I was thinking of making a wire tool of sorts to slip through the hammer to assist in lowering it. My CZ 75 doesn't have a decocker, and I've seen various opinions about the half-cocked being legal anyway. A search here didn't come up with much. Opinions are appreciated, Thanks, Tobydog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 I suggest you email your query to dnroi@uspsa.org. He should be able to give you an official ruling on your suggestion. Then you can post his response here so that anyone searching for the same thing can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobydog Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 That is something I hadn't thought of. Thank you for the suggestion, an email has been sent and I will post the response when I get one. Tobydog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashdown Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 The hammer has to be fully down, not in half cock position. I'm not a CRO, but I would say that you could use your idea to lower the hammer at LAMR. It is 100% the shooters responsibility to make the gun ready and to do so in a safe manner. The rulebook says what you need to do, not how to do it. You will definitely want to explain your situation/method to the RM and RO before you do it. In my quest to be a better RO, I would be interested in the response you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobydog Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 This is the reply I got from John Amidon on what I wanted to know. "What you are asking would be allowable, as long as the hammer is fully decocked, not half cocked, of course the same penalty of a DQ should the gun go off, would apply, same as if using your fingers to do this action. " Built a prototype yesterday to try out. I was surprised how fast the hammer could drop if you didn't have good tension on the tool. Will have to try it at the range to see what it takes to make the gun go off. Carefully of course! Tobydog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eager Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I was surprised how fast the hammer could drop if you didn't have good tension on the tool. I use a CZ-85 Combat in Production and drop the hammer (with fingers). I once experimented with allowing the hammer to slip through my fingers to see where it would go off. It went off easier than I thought (the hammer was already slightly down) and it hurt my hand/fingers when the slide and hammer came back really fast. So watch out for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 It's probably best to make the tests with primed brass only, no powder or bullet needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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