jdk62738super Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Had some problems with my sti 40 feeding , so i started to take it apart to clean. noticed the two piece guide rod was loose. after inspection noticed that the inside of the frame was marred to the point that the finish was off. could a loose guide rod cause this. will this effect the operation of the gun. thanks john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 not sure if a loose 2 piece guide rod would cause your problems but i think a rod thats missing the front half will have problems with the slide going all the way to the back. got any pictures of where the blemish is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yes and yes. Tighten it down with a little blue Loc-Tite and you'll be good to go. Watch the wear though and if it gets worse contact STI or whoever built the pistol. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Throw it out and get a one piece rod. Two piece rods just suck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 First, make sure the wear isn't critical. Take good pics or talk to a gunsmith, if the loose rod caused problems those need to be fixed. Next look into the 1 piece rods. If you don't want to deal with the paperclip then Dawson makes a toolless 1 piece rod that is really slick. I don't like the 2 piece rods due to their chances of shooting loose (even with blue Loctite). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 When I ran 2 piece GR I would loctite them so they never would come loose and they never did. In order to facilitate removal., I would drill a hole (1/16") through the GR in order to capture the recoil spring and plug and just compress the GR through the muzzle end, inset a paperclip and remove from the rear. Dawson has fixed all that with his "tool less FLGR" will this effect the operation of the gun It may if the spring binds along the gap opened up on the GR as a result of unscrewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Recoilmaster? could be a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) I don't want to "drift" the thread... but what is the advantage of a two piece guide rod anyway???? They always just seemed like another thing to "mess with"...so on every 1911 I have that came with a 2 piece-- I replaced them right away with solid rods. Edited December 22, 2006 by MichiganShootist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A two piece rod is just one of the ways to implement a full length rod. The two piece rod separates with a hex wrench at which point take down of the pistol is just like a GI 1911-A1. The other way to do a full length guide rod is a 1 piece rod. One piece rods either have a hole drilled in the rod which you insert a takedown tool (paperclip bent into an L shape) or no hole which makes take down a tricky pain. Dawson has a tool less full length rod for sale as well that's pretty slick too, it's a fairly new product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I was just trying to figure out if there is some mystic advantage to the two piece rods. In my full size 1911s I use Wilson Combat Tungsten one piece guide rods and they have no "take down" hole ect. Just push in the guide rod plug, turn the bushing, and then take the rod out the back of the slide after it's off the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I was just trying to figure out if there is some mystic advantage to the two piece rods. In some of my guns (bushing barrel) I like the look of a GR that extends to the end of the spring plug so I use a two piece GR (as most times these are longer, I use the Cominolli Stainless) and loctite it to a one piece and drill the capture hole for removal. That's the extent of the advantage as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I was just trying to figure out if there is some mystic advantage to the two piece rods.In my full size 1911s I use Wilson Combat Tungsten one piece guide rods and they have no "take down" hole ect. Just push in the guide rod plug, turn the bushing, and then take the rod out the back of the slide after it's off the frame. Oh, I meant to mention, with a bushing setup there's no need for a 2 piece rod or take down hole. If you have a bull barrel and a reverse plug then you can begin to see why no take down hole becomes a pain to take down. My bad, I live in a bushingless world today so I forget about the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) Thanks Crusher.... If improved looks is the only advantage and they "might" represent a reliability issue.. Then who needs them. BTW-- I do have a 2 piece rod in my Colt Officer's Model which has the Wilson Combat recoile conversion unit in it... and it's a bear to reassemble.. (with a 24 lb. spring and that 3" barrel.. it take 4 strong hands) I'll drill a hole as mentioned... Thanks Edited December 22, 2006 by MichiganShootist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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