ANGRYREB Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Ruger, Build a 5.5 inch Redhawk with a GP100/Super Redhawk grip strut. Make the gun in .45 ACP and .40SW/10mm to start with then add 8 shooters in .38/.357, .38 Super and 9mm. IF YOU BUILD IT, WE WILL SHOOT IT!!! TEAM RUGER?? Angryreb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 According to Ruger, a 5.5" .44 Mag Redhawk weighs 49 oz. According to S&W, a 5" 625 weighs 45 oz. Not too much difference in weight. In fact, a .45 ACP Redhawk would probably weigh about the same as a 625 if the cylinder were shortened to max-spec .45 ACP length, plus there'd be a slight weight savings because the bore and chambers would all be larger to accommodate a cartridge shooting .452 projectiles instead of .429. In other words, those who are saying a .45 ACP Redhawk would be too big 'n' bulky for competition just might be incorrect! I think this is a highly interesting proposition. I don't know that I would switch from S&W, but it would be really cool to have another real option. Unfortunately, Ruger has never been very good about supporting competitive shooting. Bill Sr. always thought we were rather gauche, running around with hi-cap guns and all, and corporate culture can be a hard thing to change. (I'd love to be proved wrong here!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 The bigger initial market in the competitive world might be 8-shooters for ICORE. Although a 6-shot 45ACP might be more comfortable for the Ruger Mgmt. folks. As to which might sell more for Ruger from match performance related publicity, assuming that Ruger backs some winning shooters, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Shot pins in PA with a guy who had a Redhawk converted to 45 ACP Think he said he just wanted to be different Now here is a good instance for the rules change, his revo was .... a revo !! Not a factory offering but no-go for USPSA since Ruger never offered it. It was nice looking, I believe Randy Hollowbush in PA made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Another good example of why we need to get those equipment rules changed per our recommendation to the BOD, so that basically any non-scoped, non-ported/comped 6-shooter would be legal. Hopefully the new rulebook has incorporated our recommended changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.05 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 it would be great to make the 45acp on the GP100 frame,and make it a 5"..and then one on the redhawk frame with a 8 shot 40 or 45 cal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revarmorer Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 You have the best person possible at Ruger to listen to you. Why not e-mail Ken Jorgensen there and everyone express this. He was the PR man at S&W for years, and a shooter, believe me you can have his ear anytime. I think kjorgensen@ruger....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGRYREB Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 USPSA Legal in divisions except Production, Already checked on it!!!!!!!!!!! Angryreb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) Wonder if the RH cylinder has enough diameter for 7 rounds of .40? Ham. Bowen a while back created a RH version using a Super Redhawk as basis with the 2 spring action. I think he used the Alaskan version without the scope ring cuts and milled off the front frame extension and fitted a Redhawk barrel. Dennis Prisbrey, the owner, wrote it up in some gun magazine. Now, if Ruger would only come out with it in .45! There are or were some pictures of the end result over at the Ruger Forum I think. I have attached a copy of a picture of his SRH along with a modified GP-100. Edited December 13, 2006 by Rover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 USPSA Legal in divisions except Production, Already checked on it!!!!!!!!!!!Angryreb I'm not following Reb, what's legal ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 His concept gun, if it were to ever be manufactured by Ruger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGRYREB Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 USPSA Legal in divisions except Production, Already checked on it!!!!!!!!!!! Angryreb I'm not following Reb, what's legal ?? Dave, I was told I could convert a Ruger Redhawk in .45LC to .45 ACP and compete in USPSA except in Production Division. Unless someone has changed their mind in the last year. E-mailed my area rep. and USPSA Headquarters. Angryreb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 USPSA Legal in divisions except Production, Already checked on it!!!!!!!!!!! Angryreb I'm not following Reb, what's legal ?? Dave, I was told I could convert a Ruger Redhawk in .45LC to .45 ACP and compete in USPSA except in Production Division. Unless someone has changed their mind in the last year. E-mailed my area rep. and USPSA Headquarters. Angryreb I understand now, 45 LC is an existing model, you would just convert it to moon clips and shoot 45 ACP out of it. If I ever see one up here for sale in the NE I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) Here ya go, here's a regular 5.5" Redhawk in .45 Colt. I'm short on cash right now....who wants to buy this gun and have it machined for moonclips?? http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976691214.htm If we ever get the rulebook changed, we could experiment with something like the gun below (without the porting, of course...): Edited December 13, 2006 by Carmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ruger,Build a 5.5 inch Redhawk with a GP100/Super Redhawk grip strut. Make the gun in .45 ACP and .40SW/10mm to start with then add 8 shooters in .38/.357, .38 Super and 9mm. IF YOU BUILD IT, WE WILL SHOOT IT!!! TEAM RUGER?? Angryreb Hmmm... sounds like a viable platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrmn1 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) I spoke to Ken Jorgensen over dinner about this back in June. He was not aware at the time that Smith had dropped the 5" 625. I think if enough of us let him know something could from it. It couldn't hurt. I also mentioned a 8 shot gun as well. All of this is worth a shot. Edited July 23, 2009 by vrmn1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I spoke to Ken Jorgensen over dinner about this back in June. He was not aware at the time that Smith had dropped the 5" 625. I think if enough of us let him know something could from it. It couldn't hurt.I also mentioned a 8 shot gun as well. All of this is worth a shot. Isn't the whole thing kind of pointless if they (Ruger) continue to NOT SELL critical parts that wear and return your gun to original stock if you send it in for any kind of service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I have a redhawk in .44 mag so I can shoot heavy bullets (350 gr. LBT WLN's) out of it. While it is great shooting single action, which I mostly do, it is not that good for DA shooting. Most people don't realize that the Redhawk's trigger system uses one spring to power the hammer and the trigger return. Now those of you that understand triggers can see the problems with that. I am not saying the trigger is unuseable in DA, just not as good as a S&W. Neal in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kframe_mike Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I spoke to Ken Jorgensen over dinner about this back in June. He was not aware at the time that Smith had dropped the 5" 625. I think if enough of us let him know something could from it. It couldn't hurt.I also mentioned a 8 shot gun as well. All of this is worth a shot. Isn't the whole thing kind of pointless if they (Ruger) continue to NOT SELL critical parts that wear and return your gun to original stock if you send it in for any kind of service? I was thinking the same thing.-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 A local guy handed me his GP100 in the safe area at a Steel match last weekend. It was wearing Hogue grips (he told me they were the large size). This gun presented for me with the sights aligned...without me having to muscle them around. That is really rare for me for a revolver. With that bit going for it, I started running the trigger in dry-fire. It felt pretty good, and the sights stayed in alignment. Another plus. He reported that he had cleaned up the trigger some. It did have a slight hitch in the trigger return, but felt better than I expected. I later ran it on a Steel Challenge stage for a couple of runs. The first run I did slow, to see how it went. Easy 5 for 5. Then I picked up the pace to see how it would do at speed. With me and most S&W's...I would have likely milked the gun off target at that speed. The GP100 stayed right on point. For a house/truck/hunting gun...I feel I'd choose the GP100 over a Smith or a Python. (and I about did...seeing a blued version for sale the next day with a price of $375 on it...probably good I didn't have any money to blow) Bump it up to an 8 round gun and it would rock on Steel Challenge and such in 357/38...or an USPSA gun in 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I don't know much about Redhawks, and have heard of some problems, but GP100s are really good revolvers, I just did the action on a GP for a guy a few weeks ago, and it turned out pretty nice. I like the old Security-Six series even more. I will say this--if I were heading off to a place where I would be cut off from a parts source and gunsmithing tools, I would take a GP100 or Security-Six over a S&W wheelgun every time. As much as I enjoy shooting S&Ws, overall the Rugers are stronger and more bulletproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm not sure the cylinder is big enough on a GP-100 to take six .45 chambers. I'd love to be wrong, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm not sure that was the idea...but I don't know enough to say? I just liked shooting that GP100. I enjoyed it. The grip angle and trigger stroke allowed me to stay on target. I can't truthfully say that about some of the other wheel guns. Here was the idea that started this thread.... Ruger,Build a 5.5 inch Redhawk with a GP100/Super Redhawk grip strut. Make the gun in .45 ACP and .40SW/10mm to start with then add 8 shooters in .38/.357, .38 Super and 9mm. IF YOU BUILD IT, WE WILL SHOOT IT!!! TEAM RUGER?? Angryreb ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmax Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Oh boy a revolver with a slow to open cylinder due to the thumb piece (Smith term can't remember the proper Ruger term), a small trigger guard opening with a short radius trigger, just what we all need for fast shooting and quick reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kframe_mike Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I've actually got a GP that I've been playing with.I originally bought it to use for big game hunting,so I'm not beating up my older blued Smiths.I've stoned the action a little here and there,and I've got it pretty good in DA,except for a slight return hitch.Next,I'd like to maybe have someone work the SA side of things some.I'd like it a little crisper,and I think a trigger stop would be nice too.Also,I'm going to have local machinist see if he can shave some weight off of the hammer.I was thinking thinning some of it here and there,maybe hollow it out,but leave the spur.I'd like to see how much that could boost the lock time.Or,I could just work up a stout 158 SP load and go hunting.-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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