trg Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I have just ordered my first 38 Super as a custom buildt 1911 with a ramped Kart barrel. I'm trying to figure out some loads and have a lot of 124gr. Rem FMJ .356. and N-105, N-320 and N-340. According to VV's online manual 11gr. of VV N105 will give 1594fps in a 5,5" barrel. If I run this load in QuickLoad it shows 62755 PSI and 120% filling. What't wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superman Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I load 10.4 grains of N105 behind a Zero 125 gr JHP. This load fills the case up to within about 1/8" to 3/16" from the rim. The case is so full that you have to slow down and be careful or the press will sling powder everywhere while indexing. Seating the bullet compresses the load somewhat but not enough to bulge the case or cause an audible crunch. You might be able to squeeze 11 grains in there. I believe the case would hold it without overflowing but just barely. Seating the bullet might be tough. Tls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 10.2gr of N105 in my Super under a 124gr bullet went about 1460. The case starts to get pretty full around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 10.3gr of N105 under a Montana Gold 124 FMJ *was* my load in SuperComp. I switch to N350, after discovering how much softer it shoots. N105 tends to be pretty "snappy" at major PFs $.02 bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 N105 felt decent in my gun, and shot reasonably flat. My load development for it is in this thread: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...666&hl=N105 Anything about 10.3-10.5 starts to require a combined seat/crimp die in order to maintain OAL, for me. However, I can fit 13-ish grains of N105 into a SuperComp case - there's still some room left at 10 grains (though, admittedly, not much, and I wouldn't want to load a 13 grain charge all the time....) A search on N105 will turn up a lot of info.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks for the information guys. The VV manual has 9,9gr. as starting load. This should be a safe way to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadsen Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 N105 er god til kraftige ladninger. Hvilke discipliner vil du skyde med din nye skyder? Til normale ladninger (som standard 9mm) er N340 langt at foretrække. And in English ;-) N105 is a god powder for powerful loadings. Which disciplines du you plan to use your new gun for? For normal loadings (comparable to standard 9mm) N340 would be preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm planing to use N-340 and 3N37 for normal target shooting. The N-105 is for hot full house loads for plinking with major FF.(fun factor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks for the information guys.The VV manual has 9,9gr. as starting load. This should be a safe way to start? All that depends on how long your OAL will be, if you're going to have poppleholes or not, etc. I'd ask your smith if he has a suggestion first of all. Regardless, I'd start a little less than that (better safe than sorry) just based on the length of your bbl. The trick will be finding a load that feels best to you that still makes major pf. I would either buy or borrow a chrono and make up a bunch of test rounds starting slightly lower than what the loading manual and your smith says and work your way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I used to shoot 3N37 with 124s and 130s and loved it a bunch. When it ran out I picked up a can of 340 because I got a great deal on it. I had also heard others talk about how good it shot and they were right. You can take load data straight from the little VV paperback manual and make major. They shoot super good from my STI open gun. I know I just repeated what others have said, but this powder really runs good in these guns. Clean too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) Just seems odd that the manual lists hot major loads without any warnings. I wouldn't dare this without a fully supported chamber. Or is it just me? I'll work up some N-105 loads as soon as I get my new gun and post the results here. Edited November 21, 2006 by trg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Just seems odd that the manual lists hot major loads without any warnings.I wouldn't dare this without a fully supported chamber. Or is it just me? I'll work up some N-105 loads as soon as I get my new gun and post the results here. Hot major loads with N105 = very safe. It burns so slow that I have never seen pressure signs w/ it - in fact the primers look like I was shooting minor loads out of my 9 supercomp. I doubt you could fit enough into a supercomp case to make an unsafe load w/ this stuff. I compress it a bunch. Trick is to use a 2-step crimp process w/ the seater doign the 1st step and a 2nd crimp die finishing the work. Also, I found N105 does NOT mix well w/ hybrid ports. Same the N105 for your guns with NO hybrid holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Also, I found N105 does NOT mix well w/ hybrid ports. Same the N105 for your guns with NO hybrid holes. +1 to your comments on the safety of the powder. However, I'll disagree here. N105 runs just fine in my swiss cheesed gun Its just too damn expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Also, I found N105 does NOT mix well w/ hybrid ports. Same the N105 for your guns with NO hybrid holes. +1 to your comments on the safety of the powder. However, I'll disagree here. N105 runs just fine in my swiss cheesed gun Its just too damn expensive Agree on the expense! Let me explain my "does not mix" comment - I found my N105 loads (over 11 grns w/ a 115) produced a lot more blast than N350 loads when I ran a few through a friends hybrid gun. Have not tried a whole match w/ a hybrid & N105 - just my old non-swiss open blastomatic. Once used to the blast, its probably fine in all .38 variants. Certainly is safe stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Definitely loud and blasty, I'll give you that Lots of gas coming from N105 loads.. 3N38 tends to be similar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Brazos Pro Sx in 38 Super........ 10.6 grs N105 gives me 1380 fps (172+ pf) with 125 gr HAP bullet, WSR primers, and 1.235" OAL. Shoots VERY flat, but loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Which primers do you use for these loads? What do you use for minor loads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 I found that 10,4gr. N-105 and SR primer gives me 1476 fps (183pf) with no signs of excessive pressure in my 5" 1911. Pretty awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 If you are shooting the N-105 load in an uncompensated pistol, does the blast knock over the chronograph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 No it doesn't. Shooting distance about two feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Where did you find the N105???? I'm almost out and can't find it anywhere??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trg Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 I live in Denmark and Vihtavuori is the most common powder here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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