Steve Moneypenny Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 I shot a plate rack, kind of home-made plates, not exactly a rack, but still 6 steel plates in a line. my best time was with my kimber 45 drawn from a U.M. kydex holster. using 230 grn lead at about a 168-9 PF. (idpa) the time was 3.34 with one made up miss. the best time of the day was 3.16 clean. i am wondering how others fair on the same COF. 8" blates by the way. and some were a little smaller. just wondering what the standards are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 What distance are we talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 I saw Erik Warren take down a rack of plates at the GSSF match in 2.18 seconds (might have been 2.88)! But it was FAST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 13, 2001 Author Share Posted November 13, 2001 sorry, distance was 10-11 yards. drawing from "idpa" approved gear. 2.18 sounds a bit inhuman.... but you never know. hopefully we will get some big dogs to chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 'twas not inhuman, it was from low ready, not a holster. I think I run low to mid threes from a holster. Around .40 splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 13, 2001 Author Share Posted November 13, 2001 aaah, i see. forgot about the sport with no draws. :-) so what is your usual time to first shot from low ready? thanks for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 Dunno, I don't practice low ready starts. I think my GSSF starts were around a second, probably less for the plate rack, definately less for the close target on "5-7-9." Y'know, it's getting harder and harder for me to clean the plate rack in practice, but I'm getting better and better on steel in local matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 6 sec @ 25 y for 6 8" plates is a good time. When you can do that 4 times in a row, go to the next drill for the day. --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 How do you guys shoot the plates that fast??? Wow... I am just a new guy and I have shot a couple of competitions that are man on man steel. There is a mixture of 4" x 3" triangles, 6" plates and 4" x 9" bowling pins at 25 yards and then the stop plate,(those triangles are sure small at 25 yards...LOL). I have a bad habit of looking at the steel to see if it fell and I also have to remember to only watch that front sight.. I am shooting .230gr ball ammo in my .45 which has a bit of muzzle lift. Any tips,suggestions or tricks you guys could give me on shooting plates fast would be great. Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 14, 2001 Author Share Posted November 14, 2001 shooting steel in my opinion can be broken down to very basic motions. first, you should shoot in the direction you are the fastest, many high level shooters are equal in direction, i find that me and many other right handed shooters shoot from left to right fastest. i attribute this somewhat to body dynamics, and the fact that the american/english speaking language teaches our eyes to move in the same direction, there for our "untrained eyes" are reverting to the natural training. once this direction is determined, you must have a proper stance, and index the targets properly, to your stance, the rest is simple sight alignment trigger squeeze, target transition, which can only be sped up with practice. and YES steel is a VERY big hurdle for a lot of competitors. slow down and get your hits. speed will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 The fastest time that I have personally seen on a Bianchi rack at ten yards was 2.45 seconds from surrender position. The draw was around .85. I was impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 On the new Todd Jarrett video he does it in 1.99 sec. with his open gun. WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 Sounds about right... be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedaddy Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 http://www.sanjuanrange.com/01_matches/res...ide_results.htm The pistol side shoot at this match is 6 plates, 12 yds, surrender start. Pay your money and blaze away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatgunphil Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 Have you folks seen Jerry Miculec shoot plates? I was RO'ing him at the IRC so American SShooter could get video footage-AMAZING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 As far as other speed on plates there is this guy with initials be who puts one shot each on two plates from the draw in like . 89 or some amazing time like that. Man do I need practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird Posted November 18, 2001 Share Posted November 18, 2001 Come on guys, I know of all the super human plate times but what are the secrets of shooting steel fast??? I know am the little brother that is tagging along with the older boys here...hehe Here is what I have figured out so far: Solid index, npa Front sight Trigger control Not looking at the steel fall Shoot only fast enough to get your hits as speed will come. Don't try to shoot as fast as the people who have been doing it for years.. practice, practice, practice.. Relax and have fun.. There are no Beta and Charlie shots on steel, you either hit it or you don't... It is very humbling.... Thanks for letting me play..hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted November 18, 2001 Share Posted November 18, 2001 I tried the racks today. Shot it in 2.9 consistently with a Glock35 and my IDPA rig. Shot it in 2.7 with my limited gun and 2.4 with an open gun at 12 yds. Moved it to 25 yds and the times were all in the mid 5 sec range. Mike4045 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted November 18, 2001 Share Posted November 18, 2001 mike, A 25 yd plate rack is a great drill! be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 The Texas State Steel Challenge Championship was this weekend in Tyler. The Miculec's were both there, and we've got a plate rack for a side match. I don't know for sure if it was 10 or 12 yds. (probably 10) but Jerry won the side match with a 2.21 second run. He also was High Overall and 2nd Overall, since he shot an Open and Limited revolver. Just plain amazing! Kay was 3rd Open, she ain't bad either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Bird, when shooting the plate rack I've found myself letting the gun recoil more than usual and sort of bouncing the front sight into the next plate. It's somewhat different than shooting paper, where I want the front sight to go straight up and down as quickly as possible. I am not letting the front sight come back down to where it started. Once it is on its way up from recoil, I am at the same time moving it on to the next plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Just got the results back from a side event match a year ago Sept. On the plates (6 plates - 20 yd, from the rail...no draws) the winning time was my shooting partner Jeff Ferris with a 2.98, and I was second with a 3.09. 12 yd poppers (5)( also from the rail) I was 1.88 and he was 2.02. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted November 23, 2001 Share Posted November 23, 2001 The 25 yd drill on steel has really improved my long shots on paper. I don't hesitate like I used to when I came to longer distance targets. I started my 9 yr old daughter on the drill on turkey day. I would like to accelerate her learning curve as much as possible. I want her to move up faster than I was able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 For kicks the other day I ran the plate rack with a Buckmark .22 (iron sights) at 10 yards. I could clean them with .28-.31 splits. Any faster and I'd start missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharry3 Posted December 18, 2001 Share Posted December 18, 2001 I've seen Jerry Miculuk do 5 plates@25 in 1.8 sec with a revolver from a draw. He practices a lot. The only way to get speed is repetition. Even then your body and your mind set can trip you up. My best was 2.8sec with at Glock 17L. I watched Jerry shoot against his brother Donnie, who could do 2.3's, knock down 5,d unload and holster before his Donnie finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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