ErikW Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 (edited) 4 Warren, Erik 13 M Limited 56 0 9.77 5.7318 57.3180 95.53%4 Warren, Erik 17 A Open 57 0 10.22 5.5773 52.5863 87.64%I shot the Limited one on 2-17-02 and the Open one was on 5-6-01. My Limited run didn't feel too good, kind of choppy and not smooth, but it's not going to be too bad considering my lower Open hit factor netted 76% nationally.Not much to say about this one. Get your feet as far back as possible at the start to avoid the barricade when reloading and when shooting through the port. Line up your holster with your first target as best you can for the draw. Bend your outside knee when shooting each side to avoid getting off-balance and to give you a better angle around the barricade.I prefer to engage inside out (L to R for right-handers) from the draw, then L to R through the port, then outside in around the other side. The order makes a big difference only on the final pass. Whatever you lose by drawing across the way to the far target you save by being in a better position for the reload, I feel. Edited September 13, 2013 by sperman Fixed Broken Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 We just shot this one 02/17/02, so I haven't any idea what the % will be until next month. Open gun, 55 points, 7.70 seconds, 7.1429 hit factor. I shot Right, middle, left, engaged all targets L to R. Cost myself probably 2/10ths by slightly losing my balance on left side of barricade & falling out of box while shooting the last target. Oops, I lied! I shot the targets from right side of barricade R to L! Sorry! (Edited by titandriver at 5:41 pm on Feb. 19, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Benzick Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 I shot this one a bit differently. 1. Engage right to left through the port. 2. Reload and engage left to right around right side. 3. Reload and engage left to right around left side. This seemed efficient but my shooting stunk up the place:) They'll be tossing this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 David, you should have been dinged with procedural penalties. The description says to use a side, then the port, then the other side. (You could argue, "I shot through the front side.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Benzick Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Our squad discussed this before shooting it. It seems many times the description will state T1-T4 around rt side and then T5-T8 around the left but you can go either side first without penalty. I will check with the NROI on this one. I fear I'm becoming a range lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 (edited) Sure, you can start on either the left side or the right side but you can't start in the middle. Don't worry about it if it's not a good classifier. Edited February 23, 2004 by Erik Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Benzick Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 You're right Erik. Here's the response from NROI: > > Dear Sir: > > > > If a competitor shot CM99-19 the following way: > > > > 1. Engage T1-T4 through the port manditory reload > > 2. Engage T1-T4 around left side of barricade, maditory reload > > 3. Engage T1-T4 around right side of barricade > > > > how many procedurals and would the shooter receive and why? > > They could receive one procedural for not following the course procedure as outlined in rule 10.1.1. It's a good thing I self penalized through poor shooting to make up for my cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 This classifer is hard as hell to shoot fast enough to go up in class IMHO. Tension free shooting and solid indexing skills are mandatory on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TXAG93 Posted March 2, 2002 Share Posted March 2, 2002 I shoot with the man who drew up Payne's Pain. He doesn't like that classifier. I will be shooting it next month at my local match. Hope I like it(or do well on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted March 3, 2002 Share Posted March 3, 2002 Rich: If Eric's Open HF of 5.5773 came in at 76% nationally, then my handy calculator says that your Open HF of 7.1429 should come in around 97% (assuming the high hit-factor hasn't changed since May-01) bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted March 3, 2002 Share Posted March 3, 2002 Bruce --- I meant that I didn't know the exact %, but I knew it was close to 100% when I shot it. I did the math as well for the approximate percent ---little disappointed that it came in that low. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Rock Posted March 25, 2002 Share Posted March 25, 2002 Shot this yesterday at our club match, damn near fell out of the box while making the last shot from the left side going left to right! Ended up with a mike and three "D" hits. Rushed it and was thinking too much. After the match was over, just shot it without thinking only had one drop "C" on each of the four and made a up 3 seconds! Then again, it was during the match I was over thinking the stage. Now I can relate to just get to the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 Shot it again today, the first stage of the morning, Limited 10. Down 4 points for 56 in 9.05. Called a "D hoper" from the left side which turned out to be a C. This is a good classifier, though not exactly fun. They should make another one that's two shots per target from the sides (to be under the 18 round maximum). It would test your recoil control from awkward positions. Then again, maybe other courses do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Dawg Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 A class open: 52 points 5.759 HF 9.03 seconds Fumbled the reload really bad. Can anyone tell me what this is nationally? Thanks, LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 Law Dawg ~79% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Shot this one today L-10 HF 4.2105 Limited HF 5.27919 Really bad hits on my L-10 run, but obviously better on the Limited run. Anyone have any idea what percent that might end up being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Looks like: L-10 64.3% or so L 80.6% or so. I saw your Ltd run and it looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 SRT, Thanks, I just wish my L-10 run was better. That is the area I am really trying to move up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolJim Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Shot this one a couple weeks ago and just got the results. OPEN / 10.30 / 55 Points / 5.3398 HF Where would that put me? Thanks, Jim TY44594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 About 73%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Production 52pts in 15.57sec = 3.3398 HF Definitely NOT my best performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 Limited, 9.40, 56 points from 4 Cs, 5.9574 HF. It has been a while since I've shot this one previously. Outside-in from the holster side, weak to strong from the port, then outside-in from the weak side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherErik Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 shot this one today got off to a slow start. After I figgured out how to shoot one shot per target I picked up the pace. open 10.12 (I think) 58 points came out to around a 5.7 hf. should be a 78% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 We shot this one today. According to Flex's handy dandy calculator Lee had a National percentage of 100.64% and I had a 81.74%. Damn, Just shoot with a GM every match and you don't need a calculator! Started on right side, drew to the far right target and shot right to left. Thru the port and around the left side, shot left to right. 1 Dimaculangan, Lee 24 GM Open 54 0 7.35 7.3469 60.0000 100.00% 2 Moseley, Mark 17 A Open 58 0 9.72 5.9671 48.7316 81.22% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Dimaculangan Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 lol - i was rather surprised that ended @ 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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