Some Dies You Can't Use On A Progressive Press?

[Chills1994]

Please don't hate me because I've got a monopoly set up in this here BEginner's section on guns and reloading.

Okay, I've got a Redding micrometer adjustable bullet seating die for station #3 in my 550, for both 9mm and .45 ACP.

So why does this one say you're not supposed to use it in a progressive press?

http://www.rcbs.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=4&s2=8&s3=70

I think there is at least one other manufacturer that says the same thing about their micro-adjustable seater too, I just can't find it right now.

It looks like Redding makes a good one too, but doesn't say anything about being able to use it or not use it in a progressive press.

http://www.redding-reloading.com/pages/compseatingdie.html

I thought the window in the RCBS die above would be perfect for using in a progressive, especially with skinny rifle bullets. You don't have to worry about mashing your thumb and index finger while guiding the bullet/case into the seating die. Mnmnn...all the more reason to use a boattail shaped bullet.

Oh yeah....one more question...Why would you buy carbide rifle dies when it says you still have to use lubrication?

http://dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?...47&min=0&dyn=1&

I guess if you were using a 1050 as a commercial reloader to produce ammo, maybe?

Thanks, and sorry about my monopoly here.

Chills

[Larry White]

I use a redding competion seating die for every cal. I reload on my 650. Cant say about the others, but that one works.------Larry

[Scout454]

+1

I use redding Competition seaters in 9mm, 38 Super, 40, 45, 10mm in a 650. Well over 40,000 rounds of each with no problems.

[AlamoShooter]

Thats one exspensive die for 9mm.

The progresive press has 'slop' in it = the nice Mico dies can not do a good job with a sloppy plate.

It will only hurt you pocket book not the die. The dies will be fine

That die is realy for a bench rest type of loading. in Bench rest you want the bullet to touch the lands in the barrel. for our action shooting we just want it to work avery time.

The die will be just fine. and it does look very cool.

When some one askes about it just say ' "yep..Yep for the 27 yard targets I like to use a seating depth of 1.094 Warfore on the 20 yard targets I perfurrrrr... 1.091"

[Ray_Z]

Hey Chills

My daddy taught me that the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. I asked the same question about using the lyman pistol dies that I already had in my 650. The answer I got was because the bottom of the resize die (on dillon dies) is actually tapered.

Everybody has their own favorites. I like Hornady dies for rifle reloading. the bullet seating die has an insert in it that slides up inside the die with the bullet. This keeps the bullet from turning inside the die while seating.

[RC1]

Chills,

I have been using the Redding micrometer adjustable bullet seating die on my 650 for a couple of years now. I have loaded many thousands of rounds of 9 major, without any problems!

Rick

[anyracoon]

The RCBS competition dies can't be used because you have to use a extended shell holder to make up for the longer length to the top of the die. I use them on my single stage press for benchrest loads and I have several of the Redding seater dies for pistol and rifle that I use on my 550 & 650 presses.

[norbs007]

The RCBS competition dies can't be used because you have to use a extended shell holder to make up for the longer length to the top of the die.

Bingo!!!

[Chills1994]

Thanks AnyRacoon.

I knew there had to be a catch somewhere.

I suppose one of these days I'll starting reloading for rifle on my 550.

Then I'll order a Redding micrometer adjustable seating die.

The two Reddings I have now work great for 9mm and .45.

Chills

[Rico567]

As to the carbide die question, I see two reasons:

1) I get by using only a very small amount of spray lube (I'm using Midway at the moment) on .223 with the Dillon carbide die. I can lay out about 100 clean cases on a metal tray (I line it with wax paper so the tray doesn't get gunky, and just discard the paper after the session) and give them three spritzes or so, agitate the tray to distribute the lube a bit, and load. Lay them out with the case mouths TOWARD you, and the tiny amount of lube that will spray into the case mouths is sufficient to prevent any dragging/chatter. Works smoothly and very easily going through the 650, with minimal lube on the case.

2) If you load a lot, carbide dies will be practically impossible to wear out.

[NoTenX]

The carbide dies last longer, it was not that many a years ago that carbide dies where very expensive and comercial loaders used them.

[Gun Geek]

On the carbide thing - I think it is a wear as well as smoothness issue. True, for most of us wear is not really an issue, but the carbides do tend to be smoother than a regular steel die even when lubed. With a progressive that soothness is more important for proper operation.

Remeber that many of us (including me) use lube on pistol cases (with carbide dies). Again just makes the whole thing easier.

I use redding comp seating dies exclusively on my rifle loads - because distance to the lands is a factor in rifle accuracy, and run-out can be an issue, the ability to easily change seating depth, and a good square seat are important.

[AWLAZS]

I use the redding die in 9mm and 38 super on my 550. they work great and make it easier to change from one oal to the other. I think that is why most people use them