Which Competition Glock Trigger?

[usmc1974]

I got a, go to gear 3 1⁄2 lbs connector With a 5 lb spring.( 12.58 for pair shipped) It breaks clean consistently at 3 1⁄2 lbs and has a good reset. I don't believe I would want it any lighter.  So what am I missing here? Thx USMC

Edited March 17 by usmc1974

[Braxton1]

I think what people are chasing is a trigger without a "connector contact wall".  The GPT and the Timney both pretty much eliminate that.  To me, if you completely eliminate the wall, you have a trigger that feels very "SIG 320-ish".

 

The biggest advantage (to me) of the GPT and the Timney is that you can run a relatively heavy Firing Pin Spring and still have a nice trigger.  With conventional Glock triggers, you are finishing the last half of the cocking stroke with your trigger press.  To take a lot of the pull weight out of it, you have to reduce the FPS weight.  The aforementioned triggers hold the Firing Pin at full-cock, so you're only releasing a sear with your trigger movement.

[tylerradke]

So for the guys changing connectors on the GPT does it matter which connector you use or is it just preference? I like the feel of the GPT but wish it was lighter. Mine still reads 5-5.5 lbs on digital trigger pull gauge.

[Slow250]

I've used Zev, Timney, and GPT in the Gen 5 at this point.

 

Similar to the conclusion I came to when running a Gen 3 and trying a bunch of different triggers-I've ended up going back to near stock.

 

For me to achieve match reliability it's a matter of deciding between (-) and (.) connector going down to 4.5 or 5# striker spring from the stock 5.5#, and using a reduced power plunger spring.

 

I may do some polishing.

 

The GPT trigger is super cool for dry fire because you get some trigger return (though no break) after the first shot as opposed to a dead trigger, but I won't use it in a match for now.

 

[Slalom45]

Is anyone using the Apex kit? (Trigger, bar, and connector)

[DeepFried]

11 hours ago, Slalom45 said:

Is anyone using the Apex kit? (Trigger, bar, and connector)

My main setup is Apex kit, Wolff 4.5 striker, reduced power plunger. 
 

big improvement over stock as far as reduced pull weight. I don’t care about lightest possible or clean break. I want simple and reliable. Apex is 100% for shoe feel on finger, save money and just do minus connector if you want. 
 

Timney and GPT reliability issues are no go for me. Timney weak reset was awful. Johnny Glocks too expensive. Simple is best for me.

[Slalom45]

My thoughts confirmed. Thanks DeepFried...

[Cuz]

On 4/23/2024 at 5:35 AM, DeepFried said:

My main setup is Apex kit, Wolff 4.5 striker, reduced power plunger. 
 

big improvement over stock as far as reduced pull weight. I don’t care about lightest possible or clean break. I want simple and reliable. Apex is 100% for shoe feel on finger, save money and just do minus connector if you want. 
 

Timney and GPT reliability issues are no go for me. Timney weak reset was awful. Johnny Glocks too expensive. Simple is best for me.

I agree the Apex kit is sweet, I used to run it all the time, and now have it in my backup gen5 G17. My primary has a GPT. 
 

What reliability issues did you experience with the GPT?  Mine has been flawless through a few thousand rounds and hasn’t been cleaned yet. 

[DeepFried]

3 hours ago, Cuz said:

What reliability issues did you experience with the GPT?  

not so much reliability issues with the GPT, I should not have lumped them together in previous comment. 

 

More of the changing feel, increased weight and grit, as round count increases. Again, I just rather have plain and simple where it stays the same and I don’t have to clean it too often.

[NoahBeretta]

All of my Glocks run stock springs and an Apex connector with some grease on it. I actually like the smooth factory trigger a lot for a rolling break using the first joint of my finger (joint closest to the tip, rather than the pad) like I would for a DA

[Cuz]

8 hours ago, DeepFried said:

not so much reliability issues with the GPT, I should not have lumped them together in previous comment. 

 

More of the changing feel, increased weight and grit, as round count increases. Again, I just rather have plain and simple where it stays the same and I don’t have to clean it too often.

 

Gotcha.  I had a Timney, but couldn't deal with the slow mushy reset.  The GPT solved that problem.  I don't know that I like the GPT a whole lot better than the Apex kit.  But in the Apex kit, I ran a lighter striker spring to get the feel that I wanted, and even though I can't remember getting any light strikes, with the GPT, I can run an extra power striker spring and not have to worry about it.

 

I think they are the 2 best options (for me) for Glock triggers out of the bunch of combos that I've tried.

 

[bootcamp]

On 4/22/2024 at 3:08 PM, Slalom45 said:

Is anyone using the Apex kit? (Trigger, bar, and connector)

My 16 year old son uses it in my/his match dedicated g17 for carry optics.  It took him a minute to learn it on a static range but he’s doing quite well with it.  The easy takeup to the very light wall was something he has to find because that wall can easily be passed up if you’re not aware of it.

[bootcamp]

As for my g17, I’m still rocking a polished factory Glock trigger that I’ve got down to about 4 lbs.

 

ive been on the fence between a Vanek comp trigger or a Johnny Glock comp trigger.

 

I think I may ultimately go with a Vanek.  He’s an older gentleman who doesn’t spend any money on marketing so finding reviews is a bit of a struggle but the ones I have found definitely rant and rave about them.  And being able to speak personally with him means a bunch especially if i run into problems during setup.

[Chutist]

On 4/30/2024 at 10:37 AM, bootcamp said:

As for my g17, I’m still rocking a polished factory Glock trigger that I’ve got down to about 4 lbs.

 

ive been on the fence between a Vanek comp trigger or a Johnny Glock comp trigger.

 

I think I may ultimately go with a Vanek.  He’s an older gentleman who doesn’t spend any money on marketing so finding reviews is a bit of a struggle but the ones I have found definitely rant and rave about them.  And being able to speak personally with him means a bunch especially if i run into problems during setup.

I like Johnny Glocks Vids and I bought the whole meal deal trigger set up from him.  It quit working TWICE in the first 3 matches. First time I made an adjustment as he suggested, second time the trigger safety in his trigger shoe broke.   Johnny was a stand up guy about it.  I returned, he refunded.  TTI spring kit and GPT for me going forward. 

Edited May 13 by Chutist

[RoundEye]

Most of my Gen 3 guns have the 20K round trigger job, but before that it was the $0.25 trigger job plus a minus connector.  I also have one that has a Vanek which IMHO is just a more enhance version of the first.

 

Ive got one gun with a complete Zev trigger kit, but it took me a lot of trial and error to get it working reliably in a Zev GLOCK.  It’s would double and triple at times and the resolve that I had to go with a spring kit from TTI.

 

On my Gen 5 guns I’ve been running the GPt and have been impressed with it. 

[Ryan N]

I'm new to the Gen5 and my blue label 17 came with a "dot" connector.  It's a decent step up from any OEM Glock trigger. But I promptly purchased a GPT to and was not too impressed until I installed the "dot" connector that came in the 17.5.  With the GPT and "dot" connector, I now have a 4 lb trigger that's pretty nice.  I look forward to shooting it when my slide gets back from Battlewerx (milled for a 507Comp). 

[Chutist]

As my search continued I bought an Apex bar without the Apex connector(mistake).  I have the TTI spring kit and connector in my 34 and though I'd just drop in the Apex bar to get the better trigger shoe.  Turns out the TTI connector DID NOT FUNCTION with the Apex bar.  The bar slipped off the TTI connector BEFORE releasing the striker.  I had to take the back plate off the slide to get the gun apart.  With the dot connector it was similar to the GPT - small take up, wall, break.  About 4 pounds on my digital gauge.  Not super light or best trigger ever but very serviceable. 

 

I couldn't stand it...So I took the TTI connector and put it in the 47 with the GPT.  It works but....it turned that trigger into what felt like a double action pull or revolver pull.  No real wall, sort of long, and you could feel things going on though the trigger as you pulled.  It worked and it was lighter...under 3 pounds.  I just didn't like the feel at all. If you want something that feels like a revolver, this could be your jam! 

 

I took two dot connectors, polished them up and installed in the 34 and the 47.  Polishing "cleaned up" the feel in the pull on both.  They are both very similar and at 4 pounds.

 

I'd like to try a "-" connector with the GPT and the Apex connector with the Apex bar next.  I like the feel in both now but I'd like to get the weight down closer to 3 pounds.

 

If I was telling a new guy where to start now, I THINK i'd say "Get the TTI spring kit, Apex trigger bar WITH the Apex connector".  I won't know for sure until i get the Apex connector in my gun. 

 

 

 

Edited June 27 by Chutist

[Ryan N]

1 hour ago, Chutist said:

As my search continued I bought an Apex bar without the Apex connector(mistake).  I have the TTI spring kit and connector in my 34 and though I'd just drop in the Apex bar to get the better trigger shoe.  Turns out the TTI connector DID NOT FUNCTION with the Apex bar.  The bar slipped off the TTI connector BEFORE releasing the striker.  I had to take the back plate off the slide to get the gun apart.  With the dot connector it was similar to the GPT - small take up, wall, break.  About 4 pounds on my digital gauge.  Not super light or best trigger ever but very serviceable. 

 

I couldn't stand it...So I took the TTI connector and put it in the 47 with the GPT.  It works but....it turned that trigger into what felt like a double action pull or revolver pull.  No real wall, sort of long, and you could feel things going on though the trigger as you pulled.  It worked and it was lighter...under 3 pounds.  I just didn't like the feel at all. If you want something that feels like a revolver, this could be your jam! 

 

I took two dot connectors, polished them up and installed in the 34 and the 47.  Polishing "cleaned up" the feel in the pull on both.  They are both very similar and at 4 pounds.

 

I'd like to try a "-" connector with the GPT and the Apex connector with the Apex bar next.  I like the feel in both now but I'd like to get the weight down closer to 3 pounds.

 

If I was telling a new guy were to start now, I THINK i'd say "Get the TTI spring kit, Apex trigger bar WITH the Apex connector".  I won't know for sure until i get the Apex connector in my gun. 

 

 

 

Good info.  

[DeepFried]

8 hours ago, Chutist said:

If I was telling a new guy where to start now, I THINK i'd say "Get the TTI spring kit, Apex trigger bar WITH the Apex connector". 

 

 

 

Hey, that’s me. Tried and true. Simple setup

[bun]

i have johnny glocks evo drop in competition trigger system on my gen3. i love it

[Chutist]

37 minutes ago, bun said:

i have johnny glocks evo drop in competition trigger system on my gen3. i love it

Johnny is a nice guy and I love his YouTube channel.

 

But.... Scroll up in this thread for the picture of a BROKEN JG trigger after a few hundred rounds.  

First time I've ever had a Glock that would not go BANG. 

 

Break Break

I have  3.5 minus and Apex connectors in route.  I'll update after I get them installed!  The madness continues! 

Edited July 2 by Chutist

[bun]

3 minutes ago, Chutist said:

Johnny is a nice guy and I love his YouTube channel.

 

But.... Scroll up in this thread for the picture of a BROKEN JG trigger after a few hundred rounds.  

First time I've ever had a Glock that would not go BANG. 

 

Break Break

I have  3.5 minus and Apex connectors in route.  I'll update after I get them installed!  The madness continues! 

i have about 6,000 rounds through mine with no issues and I rarely clean my gun after each match

[Ryan N]

4 hours ago, Chutist said:

Johnny is a nice guy and I love his YouTube channel.

 

But.... Scroll up in this thread for the picture of a BROKEN JG trigger after a few hundred rounds.  

First time I've ever had a Glock that would not go BANG. 

 

Break Break

I have  3.5 minus and Apex connectors in route.  I'll update after I get them installed!  The madness continues! 

One of my local shooting buddies also had the JG trigger safety pin walk out which left his gun inoperable.  This makes me not even trust the Vex shoe.  I really like the way the Vex shoe feels but not willing to deal with a potential failure.  Anything can and will fail at some point I'd just like to limit it as much as possible.  

[Chutist]

Okay the connectors are here the "-" is a Ghost that says it's the same as the factory with a polish and plating and the Apex. ( I couldn't find a factory Glock "-" for sale!?

 

Dropped them in Saturday morning and headed to the range.  Just before I left I got out the Lyman Gauge BOTH were breaking at 3.5 to 3 pounds 10 ounces.  I was surprised they were CLOSE on the gauge.  The GPT in the G34 FELT light, I would have guessed right at 3 pounds, but the scale doesn't lie.  The Apex was just like it was before but lighter - Small take up, wall, break.  I prefered it. That said, either is now good enough that it's easier to get a fast trigger pull without disturbing the sights. Also it had a very positive reset. 

 

My G47 with the Apex felt so good that I'm taking it to my next match.  I was able to run that trigger very fast and it was very predictable for me.

 

So I'll double down on my recommendation in the June 27 post above - If a friend asked, I tell him get the TTI spring kit, Apex Trigger Bar and connector - DONE. 

 

You could likely make the trigger lighter with lighter striker springs, but what I have now will pop any primer I have and is light enough that it makes me want to shoot that gun.  - Just an aside, I'm liking the G47 over my 34 at this point with the red dot.  It just feels "quicker".  It's snappier, but I feel like it's quicker overall.   

[Doge]

I had a good time with the Timmney trigger and like the break on them.