riden Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Assume this is illegal installed on the back plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 An external modification not allowed in SSP but ok in ESP. But I think it would take a small minded MD to disallow it if you really needed it to load the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riden Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 12:00 PM, Jim Watson said: An external modification not allowed in SSP but ok in ESP. But I think it would take a small minded MD to disallow it if you really needed it to load the gun. So, since CO goes by ESP mods, then it is allowed...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, riden said: So, since CO goes by ESP mods, then it is allowed...right? A.7.1.1 Handguns, associated modifications, restrictions, holsters, magazine carriers, calibers, start condition, and division capacity shall be compliant with ESP Division requirements, except as it relates to sights, lasers and overall weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 12:00 PM, Jim Watson said: An external modification not allowed in SSP but ok in ESP. But I think it would take a small minded MD to disallow it if you really needed it to load the gun. So rules enforcement is optional for feeble old men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 20 hours ago, riden said: So, since CO goes by ESP mods, then it is allowed...right? Nope. Because 2 + 2 isn't always 4 according to IDPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/6/2023 at 12:02 PM, Johnny_Chimpo said: Nope. Because 2 + 2 isn't always 4 according to IDPA I get that you don't like the IDPA rulebook, but let's not confuse shooters looking for legitimate answers. Yes, CO uses ESP rules. There is nothing in the ESP rules or global rules that disallows slide rackers of any type for ESP. Provided that the gun fits in the box with the racker installed, I don't see a rule that can be quoted that would make it illegal. (Side note: Yes, I know it's possible to read the ESP appendix and argue that "Well, it ONLY says these three or four items are legal" using a ridiculously strict interpretation of what's there. We all know that's not what the division is about so presenting that as fact is misleading.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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