tt350z Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Saw these awhile ago and it looked pretty interesting. There’s basically no info on them and I needed a holster for my Shadow 2 anyway so I figured I’d try it out. Only available for Glock, P320, and Shadow 2. No idea if they’d consider making others. Super nice being able to completely lock the pistol, have it hot dog in a hallway loose or your traditional friction retention all in one holster. They dont say how it’s made. But from looking at it, it looks to be laser sintering printed. I’m guessing nylon 12 from what I was able to find as well. The result is a very very stiff holster body, have a very tight fit so it doesn’t flop around, and have zero drag on the pistol. At least with the Shadow 2 model I have. Couple quick videos Edited January 28, 2023 by tt350z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Looks pretty slick (pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHuynh Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Reminds me of the DAA one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Locking mechanism is completely different then the DAA Max. There’s no spring loaded rollers. Here’s a closer look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHuynh Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Thanks for the up close! It's niiice! It's interesting to see everyone's take on quick release retention for competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Hard to say without tape/ruler/overlay card in there: still within rules from the belt? I've same hanger, same belt, and same gun and mine seem a bit closer to the belt - and barely within the allowed distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 From my measurement it does. Rulebook doesnt define where the measurement has to be made so i just measured off the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Thnx for taking the time to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I saw this on the humble marksmans podcast and I have since been trying to get a hold of big dog steel via email and facebook message. No reply. I had a few questions about the P320 variant, but this thread has been helpful. Looks like there may be enough clearance to run a Tevo thumb rest for the p320. Did you not want to try their hanger? Also, in terms of measurement, (you still look fine anyway) Rule 5.2.5 states: "Where a Division specifies a maximum distance that a competitor's handgun and equipment may extend away from a competitor'sbelt, the measurement shall be taken in the following manner: — Perpendicular to the top of the belt at the point of attachment to the belt — From the inner most surface of the belt (against the pants/body) to the closest point of the grip of the handgun and/or any reloading device — Measurements may be made with an official USPSA overlay, using either the width or length of the overlay as appropriate to the Division requirement." I have always wondered how this rule was supposed to be applied since people run the henning hangers with the hanger forward of the hip and the grips toed back towards the belt. But if you measured from the point of attachment, it would be too far...but the grip is within limits. Anyone smarter than me care to share? Or anyone that has shot majors like this example below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) ^ thanks for that measurement reference. So for my point of attachment to the belt the millimeter side of the tape measure in my pic is almost right there. I’d probably have to adjust the camber in or grind the holsters mounting surface just a tad. The mounting surface is pretty thick, like twice as thick as the body of the holster. Should be able to shave it down 1/8” with no issues considering just how stiff the holster body already is I already had the Henning hanger so I didn’t opt for their hanger. If I needed a hanger, theirs looks pretty neat with the tool less adjustment and detachment. Edited January 31, 2023 by tt350z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, tt350z said: ^ thanks for that measurement reference. So for my point of attachment to the belt the millimeter side of the tape measure in my pic is almost right there. I’d probably have to adjust the camber in or grind the holsters mounting surface just a tad. The mounting surface is pretty thick, like twice as thick as the body of the holster. Should be able to shave it down 1/8” with no issues considering just how stiff the holster body already is I already had the Henning hanger so I didn’t opt for their hanger. If I needed a hanger, theirs looks pretty neat with the tool less adjustment and detachment. You are welcome. I would think if you follow the perpendicular part to the hanger attachment, the picture i showed would still be in compliance because the overlay would be touching on the corner. But I could be wrong. The guy finally got back to me on FB. Waiting for him to answer a few more questions. I might purchase one to mess with. The henning hanger is def awesome. I need to try one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 22 hours ago, mrvip27 said: Anyone smarter than me care to share? Or anyone that has shot majors like this example below? I think that Henning's allow for the most adjustment and too new to have much feedback in a sense of rules compliance. My only other comment here is that I personally measure with the gear on the body. Body is not linear and belts conform to it. Even with flat plates of Lynx belts I always get smaller margins when I measure on body vs off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, YVK said: I think that Henning's allow for the most adjustment and too new to have much feedback in a sense of rules compliance. My only other comment here is that I personally measure with the gear on the body. Body is not linear and belts conform to it. Even with flat plates of Lynx belts I always get smaller margins when I measure on body vs off. well i mean i know a bunch of people run them now at nationals..no issue. so i guess its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, mrvip27 said: well i mean i know a bunch of people run them now at nationals..no issue. so i guess its ok JJ ran a gun at one Nationals and it was OK, and then the same gun at the next Nationals got him bumped into Open. Scrutiny of inspection varies even at major matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, YVK said: JJ ran a gun at one Nationals and it was OK, and then the same gun at the next Nationals got him bumped into Open. Scrutiny of inspection varies even at major matches. True... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Plenty of space for the Tevo sport thumb lock. No modifications needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, tt350z said: Plenty of space for the Tevo sport thumb lock. No modifications needed. Wonder about the P320 variant. Id imagine it would work....but it is extended from the takedown lever...id image there is clearance. I asked BDS for some pics of the inside of the p320 holster but he never responded. Edited February 13, 2023 by mrvip27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, mrvip27 said: Wonder about the P320 variant. Id imagine it would work....but it is extended from the takedown lever...id image there is clearance. I asked BDS for some pics of the inside of the p320 holster but he never responded. If the 320 variant is anything like the S2, it’d be easy to dremel some material to make room for the extended thumbrest. There’s like 1/4” thick material between the holster and the hanger mount so it wouldn’t effect the mounting at all. It’s a shame they haven’t responded. The product is excellent, but their marketing is lackluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeilAndrew Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I have the Tevo rest for both the P320 and the Shadow 2. They're pretty similar in terms of "holster" modification, but yeah, the extension from the takedown lever adds a little bit of width. I got in contact with KT-mech and they made a custom holster for me that should be getting in later this week. Here's some pics of the P320 rest: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Here’s how much material is on the mount location. Plenty of room the dremel away and not affect the mounting surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, tt350z said: Here’s how much material is on the mount location. Plenty of room the dremel away and not affect the mounting surface. definitely looks like we could make it work. may have to buy one to test out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 This thing does the same thing, and draws as easily, with as much or more adjustabiity for 70 bucks less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: This thing does the same thing, and draws as easily, with as much or more adjustabiity for 70 bucks less Already using the superior Henning hanger. No way would I go to that flimsy Ghost hanger. I only see caster, toe, and height adjustment. Where’s the camber adjustment? I’ve used a Ghost holster before for a 2011. The ball detent on the Ghost has more tension than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noreaster Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I have the BDS for the 320 No problem with the *thumb rest [generic]* or align tactical, the Odin looks it would need to some holster mods I tried uploading some pics but I guess I'll have to use a file converter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 using bds for the 320 too with a Tevo thumb rest. No issues. Thing is bad to the bone! love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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