konkapot Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Well at least once we get the BoD minutes this will all be resolved once and for all and to never ever come up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich406 Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, GigG said: Just a thought and tell me if I am wrong. It would make sense to allow frame mounted optics in a new LO class because there are a lot of folks with Limited guns that don't have optic cuts and it is cheaper to add a frame mount. Also a frame mount would allow the gun to be used in Limited by removing the mount. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcernese Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 So when do they make the decision on this? Is an outcome of the board meeting this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 maybe, probably. Certainly on the agenda of the meeting although they could decide to table it or hold off for a while or give it to a committee or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I voted to allow both slide and frame mounted optics. If only allow slide mounted than just roll it into CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 hours ago, GigG said: Just a thought and tell me if I am wrong. It would make sense to allow frame mounted optics in a new LO class because there are a lot of folks with Limited guns that don't have optic cuts and it is cheaper to add a frame mount. Also a frame mount would allow the gun to be used in Limited by removing the mount. Probably depends, I'd guess you'll pay someone 50-60 bucks to drill and tap your frame. If you don't have someone local you trust you spend more than that on shipping your frame. And you'll have 75-80 in the mount. You might be able to get your slide milled for less. Or get a egw dovetail style mount for way less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigG Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 hours ago, Rich406 said: LOL. Very helpful. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 17 hours ago, motosapiens said: haha, then the atlas/prodigy/staccato tactards would cry because they can't be competitive in in lim optics major with their 9mm guns. the whole point of this exercise is to create a division (or change an existing division) so that a handful of people who bought 9mm 2011's can use them in a division where they will offer a competitive advantage over everything else. You’re forgetting most of them have 4 popple holes and comps already. They’re in for a treat when they try to sign up for LO and they’re bumped to open anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 37 minutes ago, touji said: You’re forgetting most of them have 4 popple holes and comps already. They’re in for a treat when they try to sign up for LO and they’re bumped to open anyways. I've wondered if this would be the next thing or not. Lots of people are on social media are posting picks of their new carry comps and ports. And now IDPA has allowed them into like half their divisions. Will the case be made that it's fine to add ports to a minor only division because it wont make much difference? I don't know, but certainly once we make this change we'll start debating the next big shake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: but certainly once we make this change we'll start debating the next big shake up. I could care less but the Fudds will all be up in arms with their pitch forks. Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJ Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 8:56 AM, Rich406 said: I still remember the first year I shot CO, 2018. I had to send back 12 DPP in one season. I actually had 3 spares at one point. The DPP had been redesigned and supposedly has much less problems now, but I still wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole. Since then dots have gotten much more reliable, but you're right, they aren't there yet. But I think they will be at some point. There is at least 4 new competition focused red dots being released this year. Hopefully at least one of them takes the next step. Perhaps those opposed to allowing major pf in LO have nothing to worry about. If all steel 9mm minor guns are killing dots, do they even have a chance of survival bolted to the lightened slide of a major pf gun running a 10lb recoil spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 hours ago, StanJ said: Perhaps those opposed to allowing major pf in LO have nothing to worry about. If all steel 9mm minor guns are killing dots, do they even have a chance of survival bolted to the lightened slide of a major pf gun running a 10lb recoil spring? I had a RTS2 on a open gun for a while worked well. It was a earlier version. I wanted to shoot a IDPA match in CO so I put a EWP plate on my limited gun. With in 300 rounds the lens came out. And this was a pretty tame like 140 PF minor load I think. With a 19 lbs hammer spring and a 11-12 lbs recoil spring. 40 Major at high round counts with light recoil springs is going to be hell on optics. Personally I'm hoping the new division is minor only. No reason these days to make it major. Everyone that's been asking for it is talking about 9mm SAO guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman777 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Has anyone heard what the BOD did with this (and the other proposed rule changes) at their January meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, rifleman777 said: Has anyone heard what the BOD did with this (and the other proposed rule changes) at their January meeting? Minutes haven't been posted yet... https://uspsa.org/bod_minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 How long does it normally take to post BoD minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 It is about the same ratio of minutes to time needed to post them as it is for time to shoot a stage to time waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, konkapot said: How long does it normally take to post BoD minutes? The time taken is directly proportional to the amount of bad news it contains. This one may contain some details on the Practiscore privacy issue as well as the colossal deficit that the org is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 My guess was "if the rule changes hasn't leaked yet, there's nothing good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, shred said: My guess was "if the rule changes hasn't leaked yet, there's nothing good". It may be the case that some hot button topics were punted to the next meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Anybody else is getting a feeling that this is turning into another leadership failure, with another demonstration of board's inability to understand what accountability and transparency mean to the membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennD Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 minute ago, YVK said: Anybody else is getting a feeling that this is turning into another leadership failure, with another demonstration of board's inability to understand what accountability and transparency mean to the membership? Potentially, yes. I have enough politics at work, don't need it in my personal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, YVK said: Anybody else is getting a feeling that this is turning into another leadership failure, with another demonstration of board's inability to understand what accountability and transparency mean to the membership? My understanding is that the BoD is taking their discussions and the accumulated member feedback home to independently synthesize and then taking the issue back up at the next meeting: the last meeting did not include a final decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I wish they would announce that formally/publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVK Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, llamasabound said: My understanding is that the BoD is taking their discussions and the accumulated member feedback home to independently synthesize and then taking the issue back up at the next meeting: the last meeting did not include a final decision. Then they just need to say so. Small memo will do. The meeting has completed two weeks ago. The decision may not be made for days, weeks, or longer and that it is fine. The minutes of the meeting are available the next day and there is no reason why they can't be posted for two weeks. Whoever is responsible for them not being released that long is either unfit for their position or needs to speak up why they are holding it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 meh, i'm not in a hurry. I'd rather this thing take a while and get looked at thorougly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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