matteekay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Worth noting: As BUG, CCP, and CO all adhere to the ESP ruleset, they can all have ported barrels now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, matteekay said: Worth noting: As BUG, CCP, and CO all adhere to the ESP ruleset, they can all have ported barrels now. I can't wait to be able to run a comp with ports and 105 pf 9mm ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: I can't wait to be able to run a comp with ports and 105 pf 9mm ammo. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) The next esp pistol? It is factory!!! Edited January 16, 2023 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: The next esp pistol? It is factory!!! Slide mount the optic and probably cut the last two ports off the comp to fit the box and it's probably good to go. Doubt it'll really have much advantage at 125 pf though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Every little bit helps, just look at Open Steel guns. Comp would have to be integral with barrel. Maybe a Tribrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenshooterMclass4lyfe Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I foresee a lot of people getting popples added to their guns or buying already done pistols. Why? Because they do help and if the rules say you can why the hell not. Hell I dropped my slide and barrel off earlier today at a shop to get a window cut and two large popples added to my CO gun after seeing the new rule changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, matteekay said: anything on the end of the barrel is not. How about if an expansion chamber compensator is machined integral with the barrel. Just as big and effective, no pins or threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, Jim Watson said: How about if an expansion chamber compensator is machined integral with the barrel. Just as big and effective, no pins or threads. I assume that's fine? I don't make the rules, only try to understand them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwos Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, deerslayer said: I had two hopes for the new book (but neither happened): I was hoping they were going to fix the coned/heavy barrel problem with the CDP rules (permitting you to do something that was never prohibited), but alas. Maybe next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) I assume it is, by the letter of the rules, but I don't know how they will be interpreted on the range. No, next year is when they increase the magazine capacity in ESP/CO to match SSP and obsolete all the single stack guns. Edited January 16, 2023 by Jim Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwos Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I'm assuming that the purposeful omission of grip safety language means pinned grip safeties are A-OK, and I can now run this bad boy (clocking in at 45oz on the dot with mag) as my IDPA CO gun. Comp is perma-attached. Gun makes weight with mag (barely, but good enough). Gun fits box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Slide mount the optic and probably cut the last two ports off the comp to fit the box and it's probably good to go. Doubt it'll really have much advantage at 125 pf though. How long before the same tards that want SAO in USPSA CO will start agitating for comps because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Watson said: No, next year is when they obsolete all the single stack guns. Might as well, since they just did it to revolvers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwos Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: How long before the same tards that want SAO in USPSA CO will start agitating for comps because of this? It will be immediate, because "muh Staccato XC". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, erwos said: It will be immediate, because "muh Staccato XC". Sadly I bet you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Sadly I bet you're right 41 minutes ago, erwos said: I'm assuming that the purposeful omission of grip safety language means pinned grip safeties are A-OK, and I can now run this bad boy (clocking in at 45oz on the dot with mag) as my IDPA CO gun. Comp is perma-attached. Gun makes weight with mag (barely, but good enough). Gun fits box. Yeah okay well when do I get to start shooting my enhanced service pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: Yeah okay well when do I get to start shooting my enhanced service pistol Edited January 17, 2023 by Johnny_Chimpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Hey, I'm 100% legal baby, I checked!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: Hey, I'm 100% legal baby, I checked!!! LOL right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riden Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 So, this is now allowed in CDP? Am I reading that right as long as fits in box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 So, How do you spell IDPA? USPSA !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwos Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, riden said: So, this is now allowed in CDP? Am I reading that right as long as fits in box? That's in the excluded features section... so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riden Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Welp -- guess, this is now legal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, erwos said: Comp is perma-attached. I don't think "perma attached" qualifies as "integral." In fact, the more I think about it, the more I would fear that even if it were machined all in one piece, it might be disallowed as not suitable for all day carry. 37 minutes ago, riden said: So, this is now allowed in CDP? Am I reading that right as long as fits in box? Nope, specifically not allowed in any division, it is not part of the gun or the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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