AzShooter Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Trying to put a new fiber optic front sight in my S&W 617 I used a #54 drill bit. It broke after just a short time and didn't go through the sight. I can't get the bit out. Should I just leave it in and use Blue Loctite to hold the bit or try to drill from the other side? Should I use a 1/16 drill bit and go from the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaterHead Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Easy out tool, if there is one small enough. But I don’t know about drilling the broken bit to start the easy out. Maybe too hard. Edited November 7, 2022 by TaterHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Drill bits are usually VERY hard, which equals "brittle". If you can tap on the bit with a punch, it will usually shatter and come out in tiny pieces. The problematic issue may be the small diameter of the bit itself. Will a tiny punch exert enough force to shatter the bit without really gouging the heck out of the hole itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Drill fron other side untill you feel it hit other drill bit then tap out With small punch. Obviously not with a hand drill,in a mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 in this case, the advice to drill from the other side and punch/tap the broken bit out is good. I wanted to let you know when I do the get a drill stuck in a work piece... I often toss out the part. I am hoping you pictured the sight in place and are not trying to drill both at the same time. miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Looking closer at pic sight isn't seated all the way into bbl. Will need a new sight. Sight should be held tight into bbl in vise or with a clamp. Also best to drill 1/2 way from each side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The issue with drilling broken drill bits out is you will typically enlarge the hole because drill bits are extremely hard. Maybe use a punch from the backside. I would take it to a gunsmith and maybe they have tricks for issues like this. I have yet to be able to use an easy out to get any broken drill bits out. I have learned how to not break drill bits moving forward, because it usually never ends well in trying to remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 In 40 years as a machinist and gunsmith the only thing I've ever seen an ez out do is make a bad situation worse. Replaces a broken hard part with a very hard broken part. Broken drills can be cut out with a carbide e.m. with proper setup. 1/16" is tough. Best to drill from other side till you hit tip of drill then tap out. If not capable stop and take it to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 CAll Kodiak Precision. Don GOLEMBIESKI. He is about 7 minutes from Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Thanks pjbg45. I'll give him a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Looks like it's Dremel Time. Max RPM and get to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Do your self a favor and ignore this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 10:18 AM, barry said: In 40 years as a machinist and gunsmith the only thing I've ever seen an ez out do is make a bad situation worse. Replaces a broken hard part with a very hard broken part. Broken drills can be cut out with a carbide e.m. with proper setup. 1/16" is tough. Best to drill from other side till you hit tip of drill then tap out. If not capable stop and take it to someone. This!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Settled. I'm going to take it to someone with more skills then I have. Thanks for all the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I still think my suggestion deserves some recognition/validation. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 max rpm only melts metal to the abrasive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadus123 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I think your suggestion deserves some recognition John, but Barry's might be a tad better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco207p Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 @AzShooter did you get this broken bit out? Just wondering know how it was done if so, always looking for new ways to get things like this done. Knowing we will more than likely run across it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 Never got it out and it's holding up well. Must be in far enough so I'm going to leave it until it falls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 your job was far better than first thought. well done! miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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