DenC Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Hello everyone. Just wanted to know what is the best thing to do when dry firing a Tanfoglio pistol. I have a Stock 1. Looking at a Stock 3 also. Is using a snap cap enough to prevent damage? Or is it a better to use an o-ring at the firing pin retainer plate area (as recommended for cz75B models, though this is mostly recommended due to the fps design in the cz B series) Or should I use both snap caps and o-ring? Also for snap caps, do these wear out (I see springs on some of them)? And is there a good brand you can recommend? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouperMan Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, DenC said: Hello everyone. Just wanted to know what is the best thing to do when dry firing a Tanfoglio pistol. I have a Stock 1. Looking at a Stock 3 also. Is using a snap cap enough to prevent damage? Or is it a better to use an o-ring at the firing pin retainer plate area (as recommended for cz75B models, though this is mostly recommended due to the fps design in the cz B series) Or should I use both snap caps and o-ring? Also for snap caps, do these wear out (I see springs on some of them)? And is there a good brand you can recommend? Thanks in advance. O-Rings should be sufficient. Snap caps aren't a bad idea and should help stop the forward travel of the firing pin since it's not stopped by a firing pin stop pin like on the CZ75Bs, but I don't do a Double-Action Pull each time, after I do the Double Action pull, I pin the trigger back to do the successive shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 i use masking tape around the hammer and beaver tail for dry firing SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jubi351 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 #83 oring in the hammer channel to soften the hit and avoid the firing pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slalom45 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Not trying to be a smart Alex, but I've used nothing for years and had zero issues. I also dry fire A LOT. (Makes me unsure why I'm not better at the actual game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravobravo Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Slalom45 said: Not trying to be a smart Alex, but I've used nothing for years and had zero issues. I also dry fire A LOT. (Makes me unsure why I'm not better at the actual game) Same here, I have 2 Stock 2s, one with regular/consistent dry fire for more than 4 years and over 120,00 live rounds. I put a Patriot Defense extended firing pin in it originally and never replaced it. Were and when would the expected wear or damage be visible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachjet Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, bravobravo said: Same here, I have 2 Stock 2s, one with regular/consistent dry fire for more than 4 years and over 120,00 live rounds. I put a Patriot Defense extended firing pin in it originally and never replaced it. Were and when would the expected wear or damage be visible? Any negatives with installing the xl firing pin? Such as AD’s? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 18 hours ago, bravobravo said: Same here, I have 2 Stock 2s, one with regular/consistent dry fire for more than 4 years and over 120,00 live rounds. I put a Patriot Defense extended firing pin in it originally and never replaced it. Were and when would the expected wear or damage be visible? ^^^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attakmint Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Apparently mobile ate my post. I don't own a CZ, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn before. To my understanding, on the firing pin block CZs, the roll pin's interaction with the corresponding notch in the firing pin defines the maximum rearward and forward travel of the firing pin, as well as retains the firing pin. When you live fire a FPB CZ, the firing pin hitting the primer prevents the firing pin from running into the roll pin, and less momentum/energy will be transferred to the roll pin from the firing pin returning to the rearward position. In dryfire, the firing pin will hit the roll pin at the forward end of its travel. The hammer will prevent the firing pin from hitting the roll pin as it returns rearward. A snap cap or an O ring will buffer or limit the amount of force transferred, respectively, which should limit or prevent damage to the roll pin. On Tanfoglios, maximum forward travel is defined by the firing pin spring's coils touching (or the firing pin wedging itself into the firing pin spring hole, though hopefully that doesn't happen). Maximum rearward travel and retention is defined by the firing pin hitting the firing pin stop. Non-FPB CZs are similar (as are 1911/2011s). There is no roll pin to be chewed up during dryfire. So using an O-ring or snap cap isn't strictly necessary, since there isn't the same component to damage on a Tanfoglio. It won't hurt anything, but there's no damage to prevent either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7VY Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I’m with Slalom45, I’ve been banging away for years without an issue. An o ring probably is a good thing but I haven’t used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravobravo Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 5:40 PM, attakmint said: Apparently mobile ate my post. I don't own a CZ, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn before. To my understanding, on the firing pin block CZs, the roll pin's interaction with the corresponding notch in the firing pin defines the maximum rearward and forward travel of the firing pin, as well as retains the firing pin. When you live fire a FPB CZ, the firing pin hitting the primer prevents the firing pin from running into the roll pin, and less momentum/energy will be transferred to the roll pin from the firing pin returning to the rearward position. In dryfire, the firing pin will hit the roll pin at the forward end of its travel. The hammer will prevent the firing pin from hitting the roll pin as it returns rearward. A snap cap or an O ring will buffer or limit the amount of force transferred, respectively, which should limit or prevent damage to the roll pin. On Tanfoglios, maximum forward travel is defined by the firing pin spring's coils touching (or the firing pin wedging itself into the firing pin spring hole, though hopefully that doesn't happen). Maximum rearward travel and retention is defined by the firing pin hitting the firing pin stop. Non-FPB CZs are similar (as are 1911/2011s). There is no roll pin to be chewed up during dryfire. So using an O-ring or snap cap isn't strictly necessary, since there isn't the same component to damage on a Tanfoglio. It won't hurt anything, but there's no damage to prevent either. What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravobravo Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 5:54 PM, Zachjet said: Any negatives with installing the xl firing pin? Such as AD’s? thanks No negatives that I have experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenC Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Thanks for all you replies. Good to hear that the guns are fine even without orings or snap caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slalom45 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I have 2 with PD extended and 2 with Henning's. No problem with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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