Bravo_Victor Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Having used mostly conventional recoil springs, has anyone used variable springs in Open guns that are stroked? Typically you bottom out the spring and cut the appropriate amount of coils off but would that even work on variables or does that null and void the purpose of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 You won't need to do that with a 7 pound variable. The coils are laid out a specific way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) I don't think you'd want to use a variable spring with a stroked gun, I'd be afraid that cutting coils would decrease the spring resistance a non-linear amount, since variable springs have a larger starting amount of resistance at the beginning of the unlock and compression, and then less as the spring compresses further. You'd be removing coils from the part of the spring where the resistance is less, and that could put more wear on the frame since it will not be slowing the slide as much, and even with the extra stroke it could end up bottoming out with more force than you'd want. Edited October 2, 2022 by sc68cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, sc68cal said: I don't think you'd want to use a variable spring with a stroked gun, I'd be afraid that cutting coils would decrease the spring resistance a non-linear amount, since variable springs have a larger starting amount of resistance at the beginning of the unlock and compression, and then less as the spring compresses further. You'd be removing coils from the part of the spring where the resistance is less, and that could put more wear on the frame since it will not be slowing the slide as much, and even with the extra stroke it could end up bottoming out with more force than you'd want. yeah thats what i figured. Just wanted to make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I run a 7lb variable with an aluminum shok buff in my akai that is stroked with no issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, chase214 said: I run a 7lb variable with an aluminum shok buff in my akai that is stroked with no issues Is it cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 hours ago, chase214 said: No Interesting. So the plug doesnt bottom out on the back of the guide rod? How does the gun and recoil feel as well as dot bounce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No it actually bottoms out on itself , its pretty flat dot bounce is minimal its a 38sc that being said my 9 major pistol non stroked that I had was flatter .I have thought about playing around with diff springs weights but I don't hardly ever shoot it since I started shooting carry optics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, chase214 said: No it actually bottoms out on itself , its pretty flat dot bounce is minimal its a 38sc that being said my 9 major pistol non stroked that I had was flatter .I have thought about playing around with diff springs weights but I don't hardly ever shoot it since I started shooting carry optics Is yours full length? Mine is an Akai 9 major stroked midlength and i gotta cut like 4-5 coils off to make it bottom out with conventional springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No its not a full length , to make mine bottom out i would need to do the same , I know some people were cutting i think 13lbs springs not 100% sure on spring weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, chase214 said: No its not a full length , to make mine bottom out i would need to do the same , I know some people were cutting i think 13lbs springs not 100% sure on spring weight. So i use a cut 9lb spring. Im assuming a cut 9lb variable is not gonna have the same weight as conventional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 10:12 PM, chase214 said: I run a 7lb variable with an aluminum shok buff in my akai that is stroked with no issues Is it really stroked if you add back the removed material with a shock buff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Bakerjd said: Is it really stroked if you add back the removed material with a shock buff? Atleast in the Akai, adding one buff is still stroked, 2-3 buffs bring it back. 1 buff dampens it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Bravo_Victor said: Atleast in the Akai, adding one buff is still stroked, 2-3 buffs bring it back. 1 buff dampens it a little. Yea. I know when Chris tilly shot for him he destroked his gun, I know it i ever have another one build it won't be stroked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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