Moon clip USPSA reloading speed

[DavidSeavey]

So i've shot one indoor match with my 929 now that it's actually going bang each time (thanks Toolguy!) and everything feels totally alien coming from pistols.  Other than my first reload when i reached for a moon and tried to hit the mag release that doesn't exist on a revo... i feel like i started to figure out reloading just a tiny bit. 

 

timer shows my last stage reloads were mid 3 seconds.  still feels slow but i have no reference. 

 

what style do you reload and what's a good target time for a real world match reload?

[AzShooter]

When I was still shooting ICORE and USPSA with my 627s and 929s my reloads averaged 1.5 seconds.  I use the strong hand method.  You really need to eject the spent moon and throw your new moon into the revolver.  

 

I'm sure the newer guys are much faster than that.  In reality, anything under 2 seconds is good.

[Fishbreath]

Using the weak-hand load, my best dry fire reloads are in the high 1.2s-low 1.3s, my best live fire reload on 4 Aces is about 1.6, my best live fire reload in a stand-and-deliver match situation is about 1.7-1.8, and my best moving reload between two arrays is about 1.9.

[MikeBurgess]

I  weak hand reload and made GM with a low 2 second reload.

I think super fast reloads are great on stand and shoot stages, but for actual match performance being able to reload reliably and safely (muzzle discipline) while moving in any direction reasonably quickly is more important. When I was shooting reasonably well shoot move 8 feet reload and shoot was about 3 seconds.

[pskys2]

If you can average around 2 seconds on a stand and shoot, your reloads won't keep you from Master class.

If you can average under 3 seconds, you should be able to hit A Class.

Except on standing reloads, like El Presidente', your reloads need to be smooth and error free.  That's much more important than raw speed, if you fumble or have a failure it will distract you and cause an avalange of wasted time.  Most of USPSA & ICORE have distance for the reloads so the blazing reload won't be as important as getting your hits and being effecient through the course.

For those standing reloads you must have no fumbles or hesitations and that first shot must be an A, don't accept anything less in practice.

FWIW I've come to the decision that it doesn't matter which method is used, as long as it fits you the times will be similar.

 

 

 

 

[MWP]

This is an interesting topic. There are 3 good answers above mine, and one not so good. 
 

Reloads should be measured shot to shot, what a shot timer shows. 
 

“Averaging” a certain number over a match, or even a stage, has too many variables to say as a hard rule in conversation. 
 

Static reloads in practice are different than any reloads in a match- there’s no risk of failure, no pressure of do it once or lose points. But, practice is really the only opportunity to get numbers over a long period of time or be able to compare reload speeds. 
 

No one is averaging 1.5 in a match. Ever. The number of people who could even break that number in practice 5 out of 5 attempts is most likely limited to less than a handful, certainly single digits. 
 

You’ll ever find a USPSA National champion that could claim an average in the 1s over a nationals. 

 

When it comes to shooting classifiers, a stand and deliver 2 flat at 7 yards will get a GM card. And win a nationals. 
 

 

[RangerMcFadden]

4 hours ago, MWP said:

 

Reloads should be measured shot to shot, what a shot timer shows. 
 

“Averaging” a certain number over a match, or even a stage, has too many variables to say as a hard rule in conversation. 
 

 

It might be a gimmick but I love the AMG timers since they load the splits into PractiScore. Let’s you know what you’re really doing in a match. 
 

Also, thinking about how slow reloads or shooting a stage doesn’t really matter, the timer does. The “slowest” stages I shot nats and the IRC were the fastest ones.
 

 

[ysrracer]

Standing reloads are always faster than reloading on the move, at least for me.

[Gregg K]

On 9/2/2022 at 2:18 PM, MWP said:

Reloads should be measured shot to shot, what a shot timer shows.

 

Yep, that's the only thing that counts. I would practice shot to shot at 7-10 yards with both Alphas or it didn't count. I considered a flat 2 good under this condition. This was with everything setup perfect, you're not perfect at the match.

[DavidSeavey]

wel i've definitely got some practice ahead of me to get reliably below 3s.  but for sure i'm much more concerned about consistent reloads while moving rather than classifier type reloads. i'll have to set some par times and have at it.