BoyGlock Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Several times I set my trigger pull to about 2 lbs, a week after its over 5oz more in my trigger gage. Happens in my 2011s with varying brands and age of springs. After one or two resetting or retweaks, it stays put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Yes. I have encountered such a phenomenon as well. Because after the disassembly of this spring, the tension is released and the force increases. It all goes back to the original calibration after a week or two of work. That's one of the reasons I threw this spring out of my 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 Its not specific to this or that springs. As said, I use different brands across my Open 2011s and every one manifested the same anomaly. I was in belief that since these springs are used for very calibrated pull on triggers they are at least consistently predictable on this aspect but Im wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, BoyGlock said: Its not specific to this or that springs. As said, I use different brands across my Open 2011s and every one manifested the same anomaly. I was in belief that since these springs are used for very calibrated pull on triggers they are at least consistently predictable on this aspect but Im wrong. A weaken leaf spring in 1911 behaves differently from a spiral spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, yigal said: A weaken leaf spring in 1911 behaves differently from a spiral spring Im comparing springs of same type: 1911 sear leaf springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, BoyGlock said: Im comparing springs of same type: 1911 sear leaf springs. i don't use leaf spring for sear. so i have last 3 years 1.5 lb trigger pool without any change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, yigal said: A weaken leaf spring in 1911 behaves differently from a spiral spring How do you use a spiral spring for the sear/disconnector/trigger of a 1911/2011 platform pistol? The construction allows for a very specific spring, this one (3 or 4 leaf): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 i improved my 2011 trigger system and make it most safest system in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigG Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, yigal said: i improved my 2011 trigger system and make it most safest system in the market. Do tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, GigG said: Do tell? I was just not happy with the function of a leaf spring and saw in this spring a weak link in this mechanism for use in competitive shooting to use it with under 2# trigger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigG Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 How did you replace the leaf spring with a spiral spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GigG said: How did you replace the leaf spring with a spiral spring? That's the 2 million $ question with few tools Edited June 6, 2022 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, MuayThaiJJ said: it will take another 120 years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Can you show us proof? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, MuayThaiJJ said: Can you show us proof? lol Edited June 8, 2022 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 10 hours ago, yigal said: Troll… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Can admin pls move this to Gun Springs? My mistake to post this here Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY BARONE Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Most 1911 smiths use Colt sear springs. My open gun has 75,000 rounds on it with an 18 oz. trigger. Never changed the sear spring or any trigger parts never had a problem. Why change John Brownings design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 18 hours ago, TONY BARONE said: Most 1911 smiths use Colt sear springs. My open gun has 75,000 rounds on it with an 18 oz. trigger. Never changed the sear spring or any trigger parts never had a problem. Why change John Brownings design. Because not everyone is able to do such a professional job as you have on your gun (18oz) on all types of 1911 pistols and it will work reliably without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Without details or pictures, I call this post BS. Would love to see a 1911/2011 gun without a leaf spring. I would be all in for an 18oz permanent trigger pull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuayThaiJJ Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, cbrussell said: Without details or pictures, I call this post BS. Would love to see a 1911/2011 gun without a leaf spring. I would be all in for an 18oz permanent trigger pull! I smell it too, across all his posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 19/2011 ignition kit without leaf spring (caveat there is still a leaf spring for the beaver tail so on a comp gun likely left out) Nighthawk Drop in trigger kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Yeah, I did remember the Nighthawk system. It did not seem to me the poster was speaking about this, but I could be wrong. I have not heard of a light pull Nighthawk syste, however, once agin I may be ill informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, cbrussell said: Yeah, I did remember the Nighthawk system. It did not seem to me the poster was speaking about this, but I could be wrong. I have not heard of a light pull Nighthawk syste, however, once agin I may be ill informed. Yes. This is already progress to the 21st century. Hopefully they can make it work with less than 1.5 pounds This Nighthawk system mechanism works with 3.5 lbs. For such trigger p. the original mechanism of 1911 does not need changes. mine works much better. Edited June 13, 2022 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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