Dkrock Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Hey guys! Just wanted to see if anyone has any idea why MBX doesnt make anything for the cz? Seems like the czechmate is among the most used open guns. The most ive gotten from them is “we’re looking into it”. Thanks for any info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 It would definitely make it more popular but 2011s and Glocks mags sell way more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) They used to make large frame tanfo mag (also fit a Caspian frame) not sure if they still do. Guessing they arent hostile to the idea but I wonder what market share the cz open guns actually have (vs glock mag pccs and 2011s) Edited February 21, 2022 by caspian guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRuss Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Dkrock said: Seems like the czechmate is among the most used open guns. Is this just a personal observation? 2021 USPSA Open Nationals equipment survey doesn't even have CZ listed. Limited had CZ at 7%. Personally I only see a few other Czechmates around local matches. I predominantly see 2011's. That said, more mag options would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkrock Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, BRuss said: Is this just a personal observation? 2021 USPSA Open Nationals equipment survey doesn't even have CZ listed. Limited had CZ at 7%. Personally I only see a few other Czechmates around local matches. I predominantly see 2011's. That said, more mag options would be nice. I see them a lot at different levels. I mean at the very least, its one of a handful of factory open guns on the market. They seem to have all other variants (to include rock island) in production. Just seemed weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Dkrock said: I see them a lot at different levels. I mean at the very least, its one of a handful of factory open guns on the market. They seem to have all other variants (to include rock island) in production. Just seemed weird. unfortunately Czechmates are a tiny fraction of the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Sucks, would love some 140mm and 170mm mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 8 hours ago, BRuss said: Is this just a personal observation? 2021 USPSA Open Nationals equipment survey doesn't even have CZ listed. Limited had CZ at 7%. Personally I only see a few other Czechmates around local matches. I predominantly see 2011's. That said, more mag options would be nice. It was probably 3-4%; I shot one and know of 4 others who definitely did as well, and I'm sure there were more I'm not aware of, but it's definitely a small number. That being said, if MBX came out with a line of reliable Czechmate mags they would likely become the new norm, at least for the 170s. The $160 MBX charges for their other 170s is cheaper than it costs to get a factory CZ big stick ($130) + CZC extension ($38) and springs to take it to a true 170 and require tuning to run reliably. I'm sure they can be made better and more reliable, the question is whether the R&D for that would provide a meaningful enough ROI for MBX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philmadxx Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Agreed - I shoot a Czechmate and would love some mag choices - mine are tuned and run well but choices are always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 8 hours ago, MikeBurgess said: unfortunately Czechmates are a tiny fraction of the market. This is the answer to your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Dkrock said: I see them a lot at different levels. I mean at the very least, its one of a handful of factory open guns on the market. They seem to have all other variants (to include rock island) in production. Just seemed weird. Pretty sure the rock island mag is fundamentally the same as their standard Sti compatible mag with the exception of where the mag catch slot is cut. That's something that's straightforward to do... The cz mag would be a new form factor mag so they would need new tooling to make a mag that shape and size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxj66 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I would shoot Adrian an email and let him know of your interest. That's the best way to get stuff like this made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I bug him now and then about making them. can’t hurt to Voice your interest in them making magazine for cz. the new TS2 also uses the same mags so that a new and popular expansion of the market. let them know to get on the trolley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 6:34 AM, caspian guy said: Pretty sure the rock island mag is fundamentally the same as their standard Sti compatible mag with the exception of where the mag catch slot is cut. That's something that's straightforward to do... The cz mag would be a new form factor mag so they would need new tooling to make a mag that shape and size. Not really. And the reason Adrian has a rock island mag is directly due to the fact it was already something he made. It is the same as a Para hicap mag. The big difference is at the feed lips. The mag catch location is very similar. In fact 99% of the rock island guns can take a STI mag fight from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 MBX just released the large frame 9mm mags after Christmas. Picked up a 170 and 140mm to try out in my wife's Czechmate. My 2011 MBX mags have been flawless and hold 30 and 24 round reloadable so I have high expectations for these mags. After following their instructions to break in the springs, I can stuff 30 in the 170mm and 24 in the 140mm. Last round is tight fit but it's reloadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow-Point Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 14 hours ago, sandflea316 said: MBX just released the large frame 9mm mags after Christmas. Picked up a 170 and 140mm to try out in my wife's Czechmate. My 2011 MBX mags have been flawless and hold 30 and 24 round reloadable so I have high expectations for these mags. After following their instructions to break in the springs, I can stuff 30 in the 170mm and 24 in the 140mm. Last round is tight fit but it's reloadable. Please let us know after you try in the Czechmate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSeavey Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I've got a big stick coming as well, hoping for an easily reloadable 29 with minimal fuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, DavidSeavey said: I've got a big stick coming as well, hoping for an easily reloadable 29 with minimal fuss That will not be an issue. The way the ammo stacks on top of each other looks like my self tuned and grams tuned mags. Manually cycling the rounds with no issues at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) A buddy has 3 of the big sticks. no tuning and 29 with still some spring compression. the .40 mags are a little more narrow than stock and the diamond shape control rib that guides the rounds to single stack is lower than a stock mag. so there only 20 with no room in the spring. Edited December 31, 2022 by Superkaratemonkeyfighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthwestGuy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 As mentioned above, they are now available. I use their mag in my Bul Armory SAS ll UR, 9mm. They are really well built and have never caused be any problems. I recommend. https://mbxextreme.com/index.php?page=Magazines_CZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_b Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I'm still waiting on them to make a 170mm mag for my shadow 2...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Toni systems has an + 8 extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNJoel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Damn... this was one of the main reasons I got rid of my Czechmate... I was so annoyed by the mags. I'll have to keep my eye open for another, or see what the new Czechmate 2 has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) I just received my big stick in the mail today. I ran out to the the range for a test. I was able to load 29 easily, seating the mag took a whack and cycling the slide was like molasses in winter, but it is brand new. Range test was perfect, match tomorrow will tell the tale. A small frame CZ 170 mag is possible using a Promag body, a Grams spring and a plus one base pad. About $70. Edited January 8, 2023 by dogtired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 My wife's big stick and 140mm large frame mags ran great during the Thursday night match and today's match. These are the stainless version. Going to get her a couple more 140s and retire the cz mag/czc extensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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