hkvp9 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I have 4 Sig 320 21 round mags that I got with my 320 X5 Max gun that are made in Italy. What are the differences between these and the mags made in the USA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsc3 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 If they both work fine then doesn't matter id say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncles Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) My made in the USA mags (with circular slot in the basepad) would not fit the 140 mag gauge with extensions. Other than that, nothing. Note, these were 17 rd mags, not 21. Edited December 14, 2021 by Nuncles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 12/13/2021 at 9:49 PM, Nuncles said: My made in the USA mags (with circular slot in the basepad) would not fit the 140 mag gauge with extensions. Other than that, nothing. Note, these were 17 rd mags, not 21. Just curious, we’re they off by a lot? I have both (US and Italian) but haven’t bought a gauge yet to verify their fit. Also, with what base pads? My TTI pads have the slightest amount of “play” in them where I saw you can take out by hammering the lips down slightly but it doesn’t appear to be enough to make a difference if any at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncles Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, X5SigChris said: Just curious, we’re they off by a lot? I have both (US and Italian) but haven’t bought a gauge yet to verify their fit. Also, with what base pads? My TTI pads have the slightest amount of “play” in them where I saw you can take out by hammering the lips down slightly but it doesn’t appear to be enough to make a difference if any at all It wasn't a lot but enough to fail the gauge. They were TTI extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nuncles said: It wasn't a lot but enough to fail the gauge. They were TTI extensions. Interesting. Guess I’ll be ordering a gauge tonight to check mine before I buy more. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncles Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, X5SigChris said: Interesting. Guess I’ll be ordering a gauge tonight to check mine before I buy more. Thanks for the reply. They are probably the same but I think the official USPSA gauge is the one from EGW. I accidentally bought the Double Alpha one. To me the EGW is easier to use and would recommend it over the DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nuncles said: They are probably the same but I think the official USPSA gauge is the one from EGW. I accidentally bought the Double Alpha one. To me the EGW is easier to use and would recommend it over the DA. I was actually just looking at that and saw that EGW was the official one. I was going to grab springers since I was going to order a couple parts from them but in big bold letters they stated theirs was not official. I sure would hate to spend the same exact amount of money for a gauge that got me stuck in open division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The 21rds should clear. They are Italy. My buddies 17rd USA didn't fit the gauge. I have yet to test mine. But I also have 4-5 21rders so I am not too worried unless I shoot Level 2 or higher. I am going to purchase 2 17rd italy ones and compare because I have two TTI extensions laying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, mrvip27 said: The 21rds should clear. They are Italy. My buddies 17rd USA didn't fit the gauge. I have yet to test mine. But I also have 4-5 21rders so I am not too worried unless I shoot Level 2 or higher. I am going to purchase 2 17rd italy ones and compare because I have two TTI extensions laying around. I’ve read that here before that the 21 rounders with TTI base pads fit much better. Some have even said that they load to 22 (23 with grams) easier as well. I just ordered one 21 to see for myself. Im sure “luck of the draw” comes into play as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The 17rnd fit the gauge with TTI pads. You just might have to tap/flatten the wings down a little. I get 23 with grams followers and TTI springs. I could not get the grams springs to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Got four Italy made 21 round mags with my Sig Max. None fit the EGW gauge with stock basepads. Bought two TTI extensions and Grams followers & springs, hold 23 easily reloadable, but don't fit the gauge. They don't miss fitting the gauge by much, they can probably be made to fit with a little judicious sanding, but still annoying. And not fitting with the stock basepads is just ridiculous. Bought two Springer Precision extensions and Grams springs & follower kits. Both hold 23, are easily reloadable, and fit the gauge. Best part is the Springer units are cheaper than the TTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I wish I knew how to upload my pictures to better show what I mean but oh well. I wanted to upload a bunch to show where my USA vs Italian mags fit in the gauge and 17 vs 21 with base pads (TTI). Like most said before, they just barely don’t fit. But from what I understand, the rules state that minimal pressure can be placed in the mag to seat them (haven’t personally verified this yet). But a video with the NROI president and former USPSA president they mention this method too. If that is the case, my mags should work but it’s subject to interpretation. one 17 round tube I tried to bend the ear back slightly to make up the difference. No luck in really clearing the gauge better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 None of my mags fits when I first got them. Just tap/flatten out the wings and all 11 fit easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, echotango said: None of my mags fits when I first got them. Just tap/flatten out the wings and all 11 fit easily. I felt like I really had to pound on mine to get it to flatten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, X5SigChris said: I felt like I really had to pound on mine to get it to flatten. I guess tap was the wrong word. Hammer the crap out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X5SigChris Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Back to the hammer I go then. I’d love to make it pass without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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