RileyBowman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jeremyc_1999 said: Can you provide a ballpark? Sub $2k? Sub $3k? I don't think I'm allowed to say, and I don't think that is known well enough at this time. Sorry. Stay tuned. I'll try to post about it when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremyc_1999 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, RileyBowman said: I don't think I'm allowed to say, and I don't think that is known well enough at this time. Sorry. Stay tuned. I'll try to post about it when I can. Sounds good. I just figured I'd ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I really like the AXG Pro I have. More so because of its shape versus its weight. As it is an aluminum grip it isn't as heavy as the TXG grip, whose shape I hate. I love the LOK grips on my AXG, I love the Gray Guns trigger in my AXG and I like how the Pro Cut slide is lighter and the way they do their mix of optic and iron sights. I've never used it with the tiny magwell that comes with the gun. Since the AXG Pro isn't on the Production list for either USPSA or IPSC it is totally a backburner thing for me, just a goof off gun. The compact Scorpion model is but not the full size gun. If they, SIG, made the AXG grip exactly as it is now but in steel and got it on the Prod list I would totally shoot one all the time. Especially with the Pro-Cut slide that came on my AXG Pro. Have people already forgotten Vogel and Sevigny when they think about great shooters of plastic guns? It's nothing new. As long as the gun functions 100% and your ammo makes pf it is ALL, and I repeat ALL, about you you and you again when it comes to doing well in matches from a crappy local in in a gravel pit to winning Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, rowdyb said: Have people already forgotten Vogel and Sevigny when they think about great shooters of plastic guns? It's nothing new. As long as the gun functions 100% and your ammo makes pf it is ALL, and I repeat ALL, about you you and you again when it comes to doing well in matches from a crappy local in in a gravel pit to winning Nats. and you hang a frame weight on the gun..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 I think maybe Sevigny and Vogel were seen as outliers in limited. I am not sure but I don't think Vogel ever won limited Nationals, but now with the top 5 having several places occupied repeatedly by people shooting plastic, it seems a little bit different. Of course it comes down to the shooter, but just a few back I don't think most people really believed that . I think that Sevigny was an anomaly and plastic couldn't really compete in limited was the common way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just to be clear, I've never shot a G35 in Limited. An STI Edge, two different CZ TS and TSO, and an Atlas Titan. I would choose the Atlas every single time if I were ever to try Limited again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileyBowman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, RJH said: I think maybe Sevigny and Vogel were seen as outliers in limited. I am not sure but I don't think Vogel ever won limited Nationals, but now with the top 5 having several places occupied repeatedly by people shooting plastic, it seems a little bit different. Of course it comes down to the shooter, but just a few back I don't think most people really believed that . I think that Sevigny was an anomaly and plastic couldn't really compete in limited was the common way of thinking. Correct about Vogel never winning Limited. He won L10 and Prod 2x each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Jeremyc_1999 said: Can you provide a ballpark? Sub $2k? Sub $3k? C'MON MAN..... Are you seriously asking about potential pricing on a Unicorn One Off Prototype gun from random people on an internet forum??? Don't be "That Guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Boomstick303 said: Like many things in life, I believe top tier equipment does help lower skilled guys to a degree, but the top tier guys will beat you with just about anything. My Atlas is far more accurate than my P320s. Is that going to win me anything? Nope. But man it’s so much more fun to shoot. Like @CHA-LEE once said, “Once you have driven an F1, it’s hard to drive an F-150”. And yes, this discussion is always interesting. Yep and I've tried it several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, RJH said: I think that Sevigny was an anomaly and plastic couldn't really compete in limited was the common way of thinking. For Dave, it was the magazines. They were perfectly reliable when loaded at factory capacity, but he couldn't get any extension to be reliable enough to risk on major matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 11:22 AM, B_RAD said: Wow. I’m on here less and less but I see the topics/questions never change. Neither does the answer. Skill. so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, llamasabound said: so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? Ah, good times, good times.... Edited October 28, 2021 by vluc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 12 hours ago, llamasabound said: so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? I've been on Enos for quite a while, and it's been pretty much the same since I've been on here. I wasn't on in the early 2000s or anything though, and I can't exactly remember when I got on here first. If there's anything you feel like you're missing, start a thread on that and maybe somebody that knows about it will chime in. I started this thread kind of in jest, but with a little bit of interest as well. I'm not good enough that I can win in any division even if I was shooting an open gun LOL, so it really doesn't matter to me. It was interesting though to see plastic guns in the top five for a few years in a row now. Since I've been on here I've only seen a few top people comment, brad and Cha-lee being two of them. So if you hear them give advice, listen. Most of the people on here seem to be B class, just like most of the people in the USPSA end up being B&C class LOL. So if you have a specific question ask it, and you'll get some decent answers. But it is the internet and so sometimes threads just kind of go off the rails and turn into pissing matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 hours ago, RJH said: I've been on Enos for quite a while, and it's been pretty much the same since I've been on here. I wasn't on in the early 2000s or anything though, and I can't exactly remember when I got on here first. If there's anything you feel like you're missing, start a thread on that and maybe somebody that knows about it will chime in. I started this thread kind of in jest, but with a little bit of interest as well. I'm not good enough that I can win in any division even if I was shooting an open gun LOL, so it really doesn't matter to me. It was interesting though to see plastic guns in the top five for a few years in a row now. Since I've been on here I've only seen a few top people comment, brad and Cha-lee being two of them. So if you hear them give advice, listen. Most of the people on here seem to be B class, just like most of the people in the USPSA end up being B&C class LOL. So if you have a specific question ask it, and you'll get some decent answers. But it is the internet and so sometimes threads just kind of go off the rails and turn into pissing matches Understood and thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intheshaw1 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 20 hours ago, llamasabound said: so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? I'd probably just go to the oldest post in each section and start reading there. I'm likely to do the same since I've only started seriously shooting a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Intheshaw1 said: I'd probably just go to the oldest post in each section and start reading there. I'm likely to do the same since I've only started seriously shooting a couple years ago. So just out of curiosity I did this. Rules section was about the same, except for all the "is this legal in production" questions that used to dominate the section, kinda glad that's mostly gone. The USPSA shooting section was pretty much the same as now, only the names and dates were changed LOL I think people sometimes think a site used to be better when in reality they are just tired of answering the same questions and get a little burnt out. I find myself rotating around to the same few sites because of this. I get tired of one and look at a different one for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 1:18 PM, RileyBowman said: Correct about Vogel never winning Limited. He won L10 and Prod 2x each. The last time I held the timer for Vogel, he beat all the Limited and Open shooters but maybe one in a state sectional, on a field course, with a basically stock G35 in Limited-10. Granted it was only one stage, but he beat a lot of people--about 300 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) On 10/27/2021 at 9:56 PM, llamasabound said: so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? Just know,… most the time, the answer is skill. Not gear! Edited November 22, 2021 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 10:56 PM, llamasabound said: so where do people congregate now? where can someone find the 2005-2010 benos experience that I got into the sport too late to enjoy? If you're looking for a forum where people are just talking about getting better I'd check out Ben's group PTSG. You have to pay to be there which seems to keep things in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: If you're looking for a forum where people are just talking about getting better I'd check out Ben's group PTSG. You have to pay to be there which seems to keep things in line. Yeah. If the OP wants quality info, PSTG is the place to go. No drama. No bad info to sort thru. Just good, correct info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 B_Rad: You and Jacob H. did not shoot CO Nats this year. I hope you guys are not taking the ride into the sunset option. I am giving CO a try and your 2nd place previous year CO Nats video was quite instructive (as are Jacob's videos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) On 11/22/2021 at 7:25 PM, Steppenwolf said: B_Rad: You and Jacob H. did not shoot CO Nats this year. I hope you guys are not taking the ride into the sunset option. I am giving CO a try and your 2nd place previous year CO Nats video was quite instructive (as are Jacob's videos). I had way too much going on with work, life, etc in the weeks leading up to Nats. I had to back out. I ended up getting sick that week so it was best I ended up not going. I'm also dealing with serious burnout. I have zero desire to shoot right now. The org has some issues right now! That's not helping cure my burnout. Maybe a long off season will help? Though, I'm finding it difficult to get away from everything. The video of 2020 nats has only a few stages. I don't film myself. Those were taken by a buddy. Most of them in the video are bad stages for me. Edited November 29, 2021 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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