blacklotus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) I'm looking at getting into the 2011 game and looking at the $$$ doublestack 9mm mags and all the tuning and tweaking required. i was just wondering since the 2011 grips can be easily changed, is there a reason why there aren't grips that will work with Beretta, CZ, sig, or heck even glock mags? To me it would simply be an issue of mag catch and maybe slide release/mag follower? Is there a technical reason why this hasn't been done? The advantages would be plentiful availability of inexpensive, reliable mags. Also the 2011 grip is much larger than it needs to be to handle doublestack .45 so a smaller grip size would be possible with dedicated 9mm grip. The only reason i'm thinking MIGHT be because the top of standard doublestack mags. It seems like the 2011 style has about 1/2" of single stack at the top, is this to clear the trigger bar? What am i missing here? $100+++ per mag just seems ridiculous for something that can be lost or damaged. Edited October 4, 2021 by blacklotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just stay out of the 2011 game until you leave this line of reasoning lol. The entire platform is way overpriced. People are winning without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It’s shiny at the top to mimic a single stack 1911 mag to preserve the geometry for feeding rounds. You will not be able to get the position and angle with other mags without redesigning the receiver. if you want a 2012 with cz mags just get a dan wesson dwx. Not sure if any of them have shipped yet, but they are solving that particular problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corny Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 MBX mags if you are shooting a 2011, if you don't shoot MBX.....you will very soon. They are worth every penny. You can't beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, corny said: MBX mags if you are shooting a 2011, if you don't shoot MBX.....you will very soon. They are worth every penny. You can't beat them. Meh, I have a full set and they were great and ran perfect all season. But I also have a full set of original style STI mags with Hardy spacers that are just as good. If you keep 2011 mags clean and properly tuned they will run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corny Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sarge said: Meh, I have a full set and they were great and ran perfect all season. But I also have a full set of original style STI mags with Hardy spacers that are just as good. If you keep 2011 mags clean and properly tuned they will run I couple reasons I shoot MBX, reliable, drop free, 170mm i can load 29 in the mag. The STI mags I used to run needed to be tuned right out of the box, drop free was sketchy. BUT...I shoot with guys who's STI mags work great. Mine did not, then again I dumped the piece of junk STI after it suffered two broken slides and cracked comps. There is a reason STI does not build competition guns anymore. My Venom Customs open gun runs flawless and has twice the rounds down the pipe as my STI did. BTW...I shoot about 1000 to 1500 rounds a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, corny said: BTW...I shoot about 1000 to 1500 rounds a week Dammmm! you should be better. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Balakay said: Dammmm! you should be better. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nc1911 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Dammmm! you should be better. LOL Excellent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I went with MBX mags after I got my D2 Customs gun thus last season. My STI gen 2 mags wouldn't work with a crap in that gun. Not sure why. Bought one MBX in 9mm and in 40 and they worked 100%. Did the proper break in that MBX says to do and haven't looked back. Bought a bunch more and just chalked it up to being part of the 2011 life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Part_time_redneck Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2011's like ammo loaded long for feeding. COAL for my open guns is 1.175. With a platform like a Glock magazine or something similar, you simply can't load this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corny Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Balakay said: Dammmm! you should be better. LOL I know.......I have tons of fun. Don't really care about classifiers or winning. I love the sport and the people who I shoot with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 If you want a doublestack 1911ish pistol with better mags, go with the Wilson Combat EDC line or Experior. They are not cheap, but they absolutely run and will feed empty brass like loaded rounds. I'm not impressed with MBX mags for the cost. The ones that came with my Atlas guns don't run, while my stock STI mags ($60) run like a top, as do my new AGW mags. Point is there are options. I think the stock STI mags are far better than a decade ago. Of course I'm not trying to get extra rounds in them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I have ran STI, SV, and MBX mags. Run ATLAS mags now with no issues!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Taylor Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I have wondered the same myself , the size of a 2011 grip could be reduced by using a magazine that was designed for a 9mm pistol or a .40 pistol. New trigger would also be needed to match the width. Years ago there was a smith out in I think Ca. that modified a single stack 1911 to use Smith M39 mags. Just a matter of time and money , no idea if it would pay for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 hours ago, P Taylor said: I have wondered the same myself , the size of a 2011 grip could be reduced by using a magazine that was designed for a 9mm pistol or a .40 pistol. New trigger would also be needed to match the width. Years ago there was a smith out in I think Ca. that modified a single stack 1911 to use Smith M39 mags. Just a matter of time and money , no idea if it would pay for itself. The Caspian HiCap frame does that, it use slightly modified 9mm CZ magazines. Unfortunately that magazine design has the base pad retaining lips turned inward rather than outwards like the 2011 magazines, making them unsuitable for increasing capacity by extending the base pad. For a long time 170mm magazines had to be made by cutting and welding 2 magazines together. I think it was Mecgar that finally started making 170 CZ tubes, but they were pretty hit or miss. I haven't kept up on who is making 170 mags for the CZ/Tanfo/Caspian guns... since I retired my Caspian Open gun 20+ years ago. Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Virgil Tripp has designed a new pistol around a dedicated short round magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I have ran factory STI 9mm mags, with the Taran pads and the Grams springs and followers with no tuning at all and they ran fine. The only issue could be on the locking back, but they fed fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Nolan said: The Caspian HiCap frame does that, it use slightly modified 9mm CZ magazines. Unfortunately that magazine design has the base pad retaining lips turned inward rather than outwards like the 2011 magazines, making them unsuitable for increasing capacity by extending the base pad. For a long time 170mm magazines had to be made by cutting and welding 2 magazines together. I think it was Mecgar that finally started making 170 CZ tubes, but they were pretty hit or miss. I haven't kept up on who is making 170 mags for the CZ/Tanfo/Caspian guns... since I retired my Caspian Open gun 20+ years ago. Nolan I think mbx makes Caspian 170s from time to time... I wasn't able to get the one I have to work in my gun (the weldups you eluded to worked fine) but its a high quality mag like all the mbx stuff and just needs some fiddling which I haven't had the time or inclination to do so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Ancient history time sti used to make a SS grip for their frames over 20 years ago caspian used to make a SS insert for their frames, it was a bitch to fit up but it did work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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