Reloader98 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Hello everyone, so I have a J.L. Hardy 4.25” open gun with a comp and two popple holes. The optics mount i’m pretty sure is a DAA, note sure as I got the gun used. I’ll attach some pics so y’all can see. but essentially my red dot is getting covered in carbon as I’m firing the gun. It is rather short and the popple holes don’t help, but boy does it shoot well. after about 30-40 rounds it starts to get so hazy that it’s harder to see through than when it’s clean. Now if I go to s match I’ll pretty much be stuck with cleaning my optic every stage or two. Not to mention that it will decrease the life of the optics glass and coatings by cleaning it constantly. so could any of you suggest some ways to keep it clean? Like perhaps different optic mounts that protect the optic better from the blast? If possible? really looking for s better optics mount to prevent it from getting dirty in the first place, but if that’s not possible, what’s the best way to keep it clean long term and easily during matches? would be much appreciated, thanks! Anthony Alongi pics of gun: note: the picture showing the burn on the front of the optic mount. https://photos.app.goo.gl/MWPXuAxy7K43u2Zn6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I had this mount an optic on middy with two popple holes an it was horrible. Couldn’t get through a match without cleaning it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I cover the front of the lens w/ electrical tape or any opaque tape and focus my vision on the target, not thru the lens. I hit 2 birds in one stone, I'm seeing the target and dot the correct way and protect the lens from the blast and dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1. use the akai mount 2. cover the front of the lens 3. just clean it every stage or two, i use eye glass cleaner wipes and they make a little eye glass cleaner pen thing also. none of these will reduce the life of the optic glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauza45 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I clean mine after every stage, I keep and good dry cloth in the bag and when I clean the mags I also clean the lens with the cloth. Been doing it like this for years with no ill effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 hours ago, 36873687 said: I had this mount an optic on middy with two popple holes an it was horrible. Couldn’t get through a match without cleaning it Have any experience with better mounts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, BoyGlock said: I cover the front of the lens w/ electrical tape or any opaque tape and focus my vision on the target, not thru the lens. I hit 2 birds in one stone, I'm seeing the target and dot the correct way and protect the lens from the blast and dirt. I’ve heard of some doing this but I don’t want to rely on this as my only tactic to shoot, kind of defeats the purpose of the dot in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, 36873687 said: I had this mount an optic on middy with two popple holes an it was horrible. Couldn’t get through a match without cleaning it Have any suggestions for a better mount that solved your issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Reloader98 said: I’ve heard of some doing this but I don’t want to rely on this as my only tactic to shoot, kind of defeats the purpose of the dot in the first place. Actually it enhances its purpose, not defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, BoyGlock said: Actually it enhances its purpose, not defeat But wouldn’t covering up the dot prevent one from being able to superimpose the dot properly ? Like I wouldn’t be able to see the exact point on the target I want the dot to be on right? you have me curious now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) When the lens is covered in front and you aim at a target (with both eyes open of course) and see the target w/ the dot superimposed, it means your vision is focused on the target, which is the designed purpose of the red dot. But if you only see the dot sans the target, you are focused on the dot which is not the optimum way of aiming with a red dot because it is slower VS the target focused aim. Because when in dot-focused aim, the vision locks on the target first then shifts to the dot Ala iron sight aiming it is slower. In target focused aim, the vision locks on the target and see the dot on it without any shifting in focus. The tape over the lens let's you know if you are target focused or not. Try it both ways to know the difference. 14 minutes ago, Reloader98 said: But wouldn’t covering up the dot prevent one from being able to superimpose the dot properly ? Like I wouldn’t be able to see the exact point on the target I want the dot to be on right? you have me curious now lol. Edited September 30, 2021 by BoyGlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 3:51 PM, Reloader98 said: Have any suggestions for a better mount that solved your issue? I went with brazo mount an sig Romeo 3 xl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 3:53 AM, 36873687 said: Couldn’t get through a match without cleaning it a match? i have a sideways mounted cmore and have to clean it every other stage. just the way it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Thanks to the both of you that replied, I’ve kind of come to the same conclusion that I just need to clean it every stage or two, I use some alcohol wipes that I took from work and a microfiber cloth to clean it about every stage depending on the round count. my issue now is the C-more RTS2 itself having issues but that may be for a different post, not to mention all the other posts that talk about, I might just get the Romeo 3 max soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Everyone I know with the RTS2 has three of them per gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, rowdyb said: Everyone I know with the RTS2 has three of them per gun. Oh well that’s just delightfully not cost effective for C-more owners I guess huh? I guess I should just get a better optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Reloader98 said: Oh well that’s just delightfully not cost effective for C-more owners I guess huh? I guess I should just get a better optic. I have two RTS2 V4 on two Open guns. Never an issue with either. They are good optics if you get at least V4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I use rain x on all my dots weather open( akai v8) or carry optics if I shoot in the rain water beads off and if it gets dirty I use cloth and carbon wipes right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 9:57 PM, davsco said: a match? i have a sideways mounted cmore and have to clean it every other stage. just the way it is... I was cleaning every stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 23 hours ago, Sarge said: I have two RTS2 V4 on two Open guns. Never an issue with either. They are good optics if you get at least V4 That’s what I think I have that’s kind of the issue, thanks for replying btw sarge. If I’m not wrong, you can tell it’s the v4 if the optic turns on after putting in the battery tray right? If so then mine is the v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Correct. The old ones went dead until you turned it back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doge Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I use cheap alcohol wipes to wipe the lens down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Wipe with Terry cloth after every stage, if dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) What powder do you use, and have you tried other powders to see what effects they have in regards to carbon build up on your optic? 30-40 rounds sounds super quick poppel holes or not to haze out an optic. Edited November 22, 2021 by Boomstick303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Boomstick303 said: What powder do you use, and have you tried other powders to see what effects they have in regards to carbon build up on your optic? 30-40 rounds sounds super quick poppel holes or not to haze out an optic. I’m using 7.1 grains of Autocomp behind 125. Gr blue bullets TC’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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