Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Anybody notice that JJ Racaza got DQ'd and then reinstated at the IDPA Nationals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarilynMonbro Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 He filed a written appeal. It's in the rule book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 He muzzled his leg on a draw. Sponsored shooter of the title match sponsor. ANYBODY else would have been gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jeff O said: He muzzled his leg on a draw. Sponsored shooter of the title match sponsor. ANYBODY else would have been gone. That is the general consensus yes. Multiple stages tossed, 3 minute walk throughs, doubling up stages in bays when you have over a dozen bays available..... I used to love idpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Popper screwed, now dqed, then undqed. Hmmm, interesting Thought I should clarify, I never thought he was popper screwed, as all rules were followed, but there was much wailing. But now the rules were overlooked to truly screw someone out of a win at a national level event, but I have seen considerably less about this. Maybe cause it is idpa and no one cares idk Edited September 28, 2021 by RJH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Yeap, it’s a new thing, DQ DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 When he came back and shot that stage which was his last of the match, he dropped 9 points, had a procedural and almost lost the match to Shane Coley who by the way should be REALLY pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Sounds like a s#!t show. Anyone notice he also has exactly the same score on two stages? And he won both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, RJH said: Thought I should clarify, I never thought he was popper screwed, as all rules were followed He was screwed, but it was all with in the rules. People get hosed by that rule pretty regularly really, but it's the rule. We all know there is a risk with steel. That said, just because he didn't get a reshoot doesn't mean he would of won that match. Had that stage gone differently he might not of shot the rest of the match as aggressively as he did. There is no way to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 He did get a reshoot, he was DQ'd before he ever fired a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, rowdyb said: That is the general consensus yes. Multiple stages tossed, 3 minute walk throughs, doubling up stages in bays when you have over a dozen bays available..... I used to love idpa. Yeah that was horrible, two stages two squads in one bay. Both stages briefed at the same time and two squads trying to walk-through two stages in 5 mins. Horrible idea, but apparently it’s going to be the Nationals/ Worlds standard for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, SSGGlock said: Yeah that was horrible, two stages two squads in one bay. Both stages briefed at the same time and two squads trying to walk-through two stages in 5 mins. Horrible idea, but apparently it’s going to be the Nationals/ Worlds standard for now. People that shot the match should probably email HQ with there issues. It'll probably fall on deaf ears. But if everyone just says stuff like the generic what a great match and thanks to the sponsors. HQ will assume it was great and everyone liked it, so why change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, rowdyb said: Multiple stages tossed, 3 minute walk throughs, doubling up stages in bays when you have over a dozen bays available..... I used to love idpa. Sad that there was drama. Making a dogs lunch out of the walk throughs would make me crazy. All that money and time invested in the match and then not getting a proper chance to get your head wrapped around a stage is something I've only seen at 1 major (USPSA), it sucked eggs there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 One bay had two similar stages, but different reload points. One person applied their stage plan from one stage to the other and completely screwed his reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 My take from people on the stage is that an HQ panel used 2 spectators testimony to overturn the DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Jeff O said: He muzzled his leg on a draw. Sitting start or something else unusual? Just nosy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Yes, seated start. Shooter told the SO "You can do that in USPSA ". Response should have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jeff O said: Response should have been? "This isn't USPSA"....or "not here".....or apparently the correct answer is, "Oh, my bad you're good then" I hear others were DQ'd on this stage for sweeping themselves the same way. Someone also shot themselves in the foot at this match, some rumors are it was on this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: "This isn't USPSA"....or "not here".....or apparently the correct answer is, "Oh, my bad you're good then" I hear others were DQ'd on this stage for sweeping themselves the same way. Someone also shot themselves in the foot at this match, some rumors are it was on this stage. I think the foot shooter was a different stage, they loaded everyone at the same time. Everyone knew not to sweep themselves it was put out during the stage brief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, SSGGlock said: I think the foot shooter was a different stage, they loaded everyone at the same time. Everyone knew not to sweep themselves it was put out during the stage brief. I've heard that too. I don't really get the load everyone hot thing. Clearly IDPA was extremely concerned with time at this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, SSGGlock said: I think the foot shooter was a different stage, they loaded everyone at the same time. Everyone knew not to sweep themselves it was put out during the stage brief. Correct. In their infinite wisdom the "panel" decided two spectators behind the stage line were in a better position to make the call than the SO and Scorekeeper who were standing right there. Nothing but blatant favoritism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 So, it could be said that the IDPA really shot themselves in the foot on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeff O said: Correct. In their infinite wisdom the "panel" decided two spectators behind the stage line were in a better position to make the call than the SO and Scorekeeper who were standing right there. Nothing but blatant favoritism. Exactly and apparently video, which in the rule book is prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I do want to say, that all the SOs that I interacted with were awesome. I have no complaints about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jeff O said: So, it could be said that the IDPA really shot themselves in the foot on this one. And likely Mr. Racaza to some degree. People do not forget this stuff, they also don't forget it when a pro takes a dq with good sportsmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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