DavidSeavey Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 So I've been dabbling with sporting clays a few years now at a few local venues and love it. Golf with a shotgun, just without the beers. I started with my old Ithaca 37 then brought out my old stoeger 3gun shotgun, and a cheap over/under. Since i bought my Dissident KL12 i've mostly been shooting her because it's just fun to shoot honestly. I've been shooting my best scores with the AK shotgun and now prefer to shoot her, but usually bring the crappy over/under just in case i get flak for the 'tactical' gun even though it's by a long shot the highest performance shotgun i own, and it fits me the best. I always bring a bunch of mags to load pairs. Last weekend was really the only time i've actually gotten flak for it. The guy said they usually don't allow "Fxxx around guns like that" (which a KL12 is anything but, didn't want to get into it with the guy) and he mentioned a 26" barrel rule. Where does that 26" silliness come from? Is it just fudds not liking things that aren't common to that game or is there a more interesting history to prohibiting shooting defensive or more tactical or compact type shotguns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Sporting clay and trapshooters are a special bunch. Shoot what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 There’s no 26” barrel rule i shoot a Citori with 28” barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSeavey Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 58 minutes ago, dapribek said: There’s no 26” barrel rule i shoot a Citori with 28” barrels. should have specified that when he told me about the 26" rule he was referencing a supposed rule barring barrels shorter than 26", not an exact length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 There is no barrel length rule in general, but some clubs may require a minimum barrel (not max length; has to be at least 26"...) length for some reason. Lots of sporting guns have 30" or 32" or even 34" barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, DavidSeavey said: Golf with a shotgun, just without the beers. Not at any clubs I've been to. They hit the bar pretty hard before shooting around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DavidSeavey said: The guy said they usually don't allow "Fxxx around guns like that" What an a-hole. I used to shoot a lot of competitive trap. The really good guys (trap, skeet, clays, whatever) don't say that - they're just happy people are shooting the sports. It's the guys that think they are good and think an expensive gun makes them special. Usually they suck and always have an excuse. Shoot whatever you want. Edited September 26, 2021 by LMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrooney Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 He would probably be glad it was shorter when someone shoves it (I'll be nice) where the sun don't shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I've heard the sub jr. class in trap starts at 65? Any truth to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) Actually it's 68. Edited October 12, 2021 by AHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Some (very few) clubs I've been to have a rule to not allow any shotgun with a barrel less than 26". It's a club rule, not NSSA, NSCA, or ATA. Fudds gonna fudd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 7:19 PM, DavidSeavey said: So I've been dabbling with sporting clays a few years now at a few local venues and love it. Golf with a shotgun, just without the beers. I started with my old Ithaca 37 then brought out my old stoeger 3gun shotgun, and a cheap over/under. Since i bought my Dissident KL12 i've mostly been shooting her because it's just fun to shoot honestly. I've been shooting my best scores with the AK shotgun and now prefer to shoot her, but usually bring the crappy over/under just in case i get flak for the 'tactical' gun even though it's by a long shot the highest performance shotgun i own, and it fits me the best. I always bring a bunch of mags to load pairs. Last weekend was really the only time i've actually gotten flak for it. The guy said they usually don't allow "Fxxx around guns like that" (which a KL12 is anything but, didn't want to get into it with the guy) and he mentioned a 26" barrel rule. Where does that 26" silliness come from? Is it just fudds not liking things that aren't common to that game or is there a more interesting history to prohibiting shooting defensive or more tactical or compact type shotguns? You probably have better gun handling and muzzle discipline than almost all the fudds I've run into in the clay sports. It got so bad that I decided to quit sporting clays cold, before I got into a fight with someone over the numerous and constant firearm safety violations I saw every time at virtually every clay club I went to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SGT_Schultz said: You probably have better gun handling and muzzle discipline than almost all the fudds I've run into in the clay sports. Yes. Clay sports clubs are terrifying places to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 and when you politely suggest how to be safe you get "I've been handling shotguns this way my whole life blah blah blah..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, LMS said: and when you politely suggest how to be safe you get "I've been handling shotguns this way my whole life blah blah blah..." That's why I had to leave. It was either leave the sport or get in a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSeavey Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 4:26 PM, SGT_Schultz said: You probably have better gun handling and muzzle discipline than almost all the fudds I've run into in the clay sports. It got so bad that I decided to quit sporting clays cold, before I got into a fight with someone over the numerous and constant firearm safety violations I saw every time at virtually every clay club I went to . hah serously though! you have to shift your whole attitude around them or just go away. i love the game of clays with my uspsa friends though. I think the trap guys are the worst at that actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARD72977 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I would think the minimum barrel length is to keep you from swing the barrel out of the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old3GNR Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 My primary Clays gun is a Beretta 682 12 ga with a 32" barrel but frequently shoot my Beretta 686 28 ga with a 26" barrel. No issues with my clubs regarding barrel length. I've also shot trap with my 20" Benelli and a dot sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenheron Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 I've seen a few clubs in south Florida with no pistol grip setups (regardless of barrel length), no bullpups (again, regardless of barrel length), no 20" or less, and no 22" or less barrel length postings. Some of the rules can be rather "silly" to say the least at some clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I believe this episode "explains it". Beyond that I will say...It is my fault. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-66-nsca-executive-director-michael-hampton-jr/id1542488589?i=1000552803399 I shot the Oregon State Championship with a 18+" Gen12 shotgun and it was not well received by those who complain about such things. For the record I conducted myself with calm professionalism, My demeanor was not and issue. This was the gun in question. The rule is now 24" unless you get MD permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Trouble maker!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I prefer a 30-34" barrel for sporting clays, trap, 5Stand and skeet. That's what I think works better for me. If you want to shoot sporting with a 20" barrel, who cares as long as you conduct yourself in a safe manner. As long as you aren't walking around between stations with 10rds in the extended tube or locked & loaded with detachable magazine inserted, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 12:59 PM, P.E. Kelley said: I believe this episode "explains it". Beyond that I will say...It is my fault. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-66-nsca-executive-director-michael-hampton-jr/id1542488589?i=1000552803399 I shot the Oregon State Championship with a 18+" Gen12 shotgun and it was not well received by those who complain about such things. For the record I conducted myself with calm professionalism, My demeanor was not and issue. This was the gun in question. The rule is now 24" unless you get MD permission. I would have paid to see that............LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 6:55 PM, Yeti said: If you want to shoot sporting with a 20" barrel, who cares as long as you conduct yourself in a safe manner. As long as you aren't walking around between stations with 10rds in the extended tube or locked & loaded with detachable magazine inserted, I don't care. Exactly But that sport has more miserable people than any I've ever been to and they like to spread their misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 That is a bit of a broad brush. Must be a story behind this sentiment. There are some fine people that shoot Sporting Clays. I'm one of em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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