Sanctioned Matches

[Ontarget]

"Every shooter in a Sanctioned Match must be classified within the previous 12 months in the Division in which he/she is entered."

 

I'm wondering why this rule is necessary. Is it?

[SGT_Schultz]

1 hour ago, Ontarget said:

"Every shooter in a Sanctioned Match must be classified within the previous 12 months in the Division in which he/she is entered."

 

I'm wondering why this rule is necessary. Is it?

 

It's necessary in IDPA because it's not required in USPSA

 

It's like anti-matter

[rowdyb]

My only guess is to encourage people to be in a division and participate in their local stuff, where most people get classified. Especially since idpa is set up you can be classified in just one attempt.

 

Oh and to be classified you have to be a member, so a small amount of dollar intake for them.

 

And maybe there was some issue at some time and the rule was a reaction to something someone did that the org didn't like.

 

It seems to be endemic in idpa that people value a "match bump" in classification over a change made on shooting the classifier. So people are constantly bouncing around between divisions. For example you're mm in cdp and you get a bump to ss at your state match. Well then rather than stay in cdp most people will then pick one or two other divisions and shoot them until they make ss in those divisions. Then they'll try to make ex in a division and when that happens they abandon the division to try and make ex in other divisions. So there is this constant back and forth between divisions.

[Racinready300ex]

I always assumed it's mean to keep your classification on par with your skill level. If you're practicing regularly for a year you should be better than you were and shooting a classifier will make you're classification reflect what ever your current skill level is. It's kind of a flaw in the USPSA system, if you shoot one match a month and there aren't matches in the winter in your part of the country you might only get 6-8 classifiers a year. So it's not crazy for your class to lag behind your skill, and you see some B class dude crush souls at a Area match. I still think uspsa has the best system, it's just not perfect.

 

The flaw in IDPA's logic is what rowdy pointed out, nobody wants to shoot the classifier they want match bumps. So the classifier is just a formality that never reflects the shooters ability's. 

[Andy9]

On 9/14/2021 at 6:31 PM, SGT_Schultz said:

 

It's necessary in IDPA because it's not required in USPSA

 

It's like anti-matter

 

[SGT_Schultz]

On 9/15/2021 at 7:56 AM, rowdyb said:

It seems to be endemic in idpa that people value a "match bump" in classification over a change made on shooting the classifier.

 

More IDPA weirdness

[rowdyb]

On 9/15/2021 at 7:36 AM, Racinready300ex said:

The flaw in IDPA's logic i

The other is that the classifier is often done stand alone, not a part of a match score. Yes, I know some matches mix it into their match but most classifiers shot in idpa are not with the external stuff of having it shot in a match. Being able to not have it effect your local match sore ever also allows a different approach to being classified.

[Jim Watson]

Right, so often it is "Sure, we will classify you, just come in early or stay late from the match."

But... the best classifier I ever shot was "embedded" in a long match.

 

The inherent weakness in IDPA or USPSA classification is that shooters are crazy for novelty, every match must be different, so classifiers have to be Special, one way or another.  Not like some of the old dull shoots where everything is the same and every score goes on your record.  I still have score cards from my years in ATA Trap.  

Edited September 19, 2021 by Jim Watson

[Malarky112]

On 9/14/2021 at 5:10 PM, Ontarget said:

"Every shooter in a Sanctioned Match must be classified within the previous 12 months in the Division in which he/she is entered."

 

I'm wondering why this rule is necessary. Is it?

Shooting a major match also counts as a classifier, so if you shoot the same division no need for classifier.  But I'd say the same as Racin...to reflect your current skill level.