Stafford Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 How far would you travel to go to an outdoor range that allows draws from holster, and movement around the bay to train for USPSA? Let's say you're going to try and get one live fire session in per week in addition to dry fire and matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I currently drive 1 hour each way for this exact setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I drive about 30 minutes or 25 miles each from my house to the gate of the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 45~60 minutes each way depending on traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I am very fortunate! I have to walk 30 yards from my cellar door. I have a great situation and an even greater wife!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 It's about 40 minutes to have an indoor range I can do this at. It's a large room and at 2am I'm the only person there. About 1hr to have outside bays i can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I don't know how far I would drive if I wanted an outdoor range. I own my land 10 minutes from my house and have a range permanently setup there with steel hanging and a plate rack. If I want to go to a shooting range that I'm a member of then I have to go an additional 10 minutes. I rarely go there other than matches because then I have to haul gear there to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 No more than 30 minutes because I want to do my training during the week. Luckily I have access to that situation. Any drive longer than 30 minutes would limit a club to weekend practice. In that case the longest I'm willing to drive is one hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 hours ago, rowdyb said: I currently drive 1 hour each way for this exact setup me too although if im being honest i basically cut all my live fire practice out so i can save more primers. i shoot two matches a month, 1 is practice for me, and the other is where i work on things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I can't see how shooting matches can be productive practice. In order to practice something you need repetition, otherwise improvement will come very slowly. I use some local matches as opportunities to try things, but practice is something I do elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 About an hour to my club with bays. But I always have other things to do in town when I go there. Hit a couple of stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Well I moved and the range I joined is 45 minutes away, but I've never been there. So I guess the answer is less than 45 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said: I can't see how shooting matches can be productive practice. In order to practice something you need repetition, otherwise improvement will come very slowly. depends on where you are in the development curve. after 8-9 years of shooting, i find that I don't need as much live fire as I used to, especially in a dot division. I can shoot 50-100 rounds of live fire a week, and make significant improvements when coupled with 30 mins or so of daily dryfire. but wutever, I live 12 mins from the range that I am VP of, so I live fire whenever I want..... but I do much much much more dryfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, motosapiens said: depends on where you are in the development curve. after 8-9 years of shooting, i find that I don't need as much live fire as I used to, especially in a dot division. I can shoot 50-100 rounds of live fire a week, and make significant improvements when coupled with 30 mins or so of daily dryfire. but wutever, I live 12 mins from the range that I am VP of, so I live fire whenever I want..... but I do much much much more dryfire. You missed the point completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 19 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said: I can't see how shooting matches can be productive practice. In order to practice something you need repetition, otherwise improvement will come very slowly. I use some local matches as opportunities to try things, but practice is something I do elsewhere. i dry fired everyday from when i started to about B class. After that I stopped and see no difference in the gains made. Pushing into GM has become more about a mindset than actual skills. By time you hit M you should know how to load a mag or pick up the dot, your grip should be consistent and all the small things you would normally work on in dry fire should already be mechanical for you. Now I mean just making GM is about mental game. Performing consistently at GM level is where continued dry fire practice will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said: You missed the point completely No I didn't. the repetition comes in dry-fire. with the right mindset you need very little live-fire to progress, so the match can serve as confirmation of the repetition you've done away from the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, motosapiens said: No I didn't. the repetition comes in dry-fire. with the right mindset you need very little live-fire to progress, so the match can serve as confirmation of the repetition you've done away from the range. This isn't about you and your methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 23 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said: I can't see how shooting matches can be productive practice. In order to practice something you need repetition, otherwise improvement will come very slowly. I use some local matches as opportunities to try things, but practice is something I do elsewhere. Matches generally are practice in the sense that I'm practicing match management or performing in match conditions. But like you to really practice a skill I need rep's. I do a lot of reps in dry fire but some stuff needs to be done on the range. I've always lived close to a range, currently there is one between where I work and where I live. So I just stop there on my way home from work. But if I didn't live close to a range I'd probably adjust my training based on the distance. Driving a hour each way I'd probably only practice on weekends, and I'd try to get there first thing in the morning so I don't feel like I'm killing the whole day. I'd probably increase the round count of my sessions too. Instead of two sessions at 100-150 rounds I'd go to one a week at 300. Or every other week at 500. This IMO wouldn't be ideal, but it would be better than nothing. I already try to make my sessions as efficient as I can. When I get to the range I know what I'm going to do, my mags are already loaded so all I need to do is hang targets and shoot. I use a paster gun to speed up resetting, and some times I only paste shots that aren't A's. I can do a 150 round session and mix in live and dry fire and be in and out including setup tear down and picking up my brass in about 30 min. If I was single with no family I might approach it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intheshaw1 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I live 15 min each way from my private club. I shoot pistol league there every Tuesday and use that for my stage practice. I try to get out every other week to work on specific things but having a young family makes that hard. Sometimes I just try to sneak out for a long lunch or take an early Friday and get out there. If I lived any further away it would make that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Matches generally are practice in the sense that I'm practicing match management or performing in match conditions. But like you to really practice a skill I need rep's. I do a lot of reps in dry fire but some stuff needs to be done on the range. You get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said: This isn't about you and your methods. It's about whatever I want to make it about. You can post about what works for you. Other people can post about what works for them. If you don't like my posts, don't read them (or just dq me from the next match you work for having a different opinion than you, lulz). I live 10 mins from the range where I am VP, so it's worth it to me to go do the 50-80 rounds of live fire I really need to work on recoil control and shot-calling. If I lived an hour from the range, I would probably do that significantly less, but not shoot significantly fewer matches. Edited August 19, 2021 by motosapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuey Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Mine is 35 mins each way and worth it to a private club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amra86 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Its 50 minutes each way for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I belong to a private club in Lakeland, Tn which is a suburb of Memphis. The range is 11 miles from my house. It is a great range and I am lucky to be able to have this range as close as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 For weekend sessions, I have about a 35-minute drive, but one of the ranges where I'm a member is 10 minutes from my office, so I try to pack in weeknight trips where I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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