Smitty79 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 When I started action shooting, shooting Production, I was trained to cant the gun, particularly for support hand shooting, to get the sight in front of my dominant eye. I am not cross dominant. I now shoot Carry Optics. I shoot both eyes open. if the dot is in front of my face, the bullet goes where I want it to go unless my trigger press sucks. Are there recoil management or trigger press advantages to canting the gun with one hand? I was a solid B shooter until work and real life got in the way. I'm now a retired C working my way back to B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I’ve heard that canting the gun improves recoil management when shooting strong hand and weak hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 If we were shooting 1 bullet per target I can see an argument for shooting one handed canted. We are typically putting 2 on the majority of targets we are engaging, for this reason I train shooting the gun upright for more predictable sight tracking (irons or dot) moving vertically. This also gives the shooter a better chance of hitting the A zone with the second shot (on most target presentations), versus a canted position of the gun where the muzzle travels into the c zone earlier in the recoil movement of the gun. At the end of the day its always up to user preference. The person should try both methods and figured out to which works best for them. Obviously both methods should be tested on the clock. I have played with canted position of the gun in one handed shooting and really did not see any plus side to it. With that I said many shooters better than I use this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I recently had a match that included shooting freestyle at 35 yards and then reloading moving to the other box (also 35 yards) firing 6 shots strong hand. I went to the range and shooting at about 30 yards I had a much better result with the gun canted a little. We were on a stage with our next stage being that stage and were informed the stage had been thrown out. Never got a chance to shoot it. Just a small test for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim vaughan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 If your bore to dot distance is large (mine is 60 mm), then it pays to cant the gun when used in the left hand so that the dot aligns with my master right eye. Thus cant for weak hand, vertical for strong hand is my preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 20 hours ago, dapribek said: I’ve heard that canting the gun improves recoil management when shooting strong hand and weak hand. Tim Herron demonstrated the exact opposite at a class I took with him this July. @Boomstick303 hit on the major points that Tim made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I don't know if canting a red equipped gun makes much difference in recoil control. BUT... IMO ... with iron sights shooting support (weak) hand, a slight cant towards the dominant eye can have a positive affect on quicker sight alinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/14/2021 at 9:05 AM, jim vaughan said: If your bore to dot distance is large (mine is 60 mm), then it pays to cant the gun when used in the left hand so that the dot aligns with my master right eye. Thus cant for weak hand, vertical for strong hand is my preference. At long distances what sort of impact offset are you seeing with the gun canted? The bullet definitely isn't going to hit where the dot is. That's a good reason to not cant it with a huge height over bore like you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim vaughan Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 If one zeros at say 25m, then the bullet impact will be no different to shooting with a vertical gun. All that is happening is that one picks up the dot quicker with the master eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Certainly not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 9:38 AM, Smitty79 said: Are there recoil management or trigger press advantages to canting the gun with one hand? At hand gun distances the cant of the gun hardly effects point of impact worth worrying about. In a rifle at distance it is a huge factor. However to the question; the only way you will know is to go and practice with different angles. Try to do it at simulated competition speed and pressure (use a timer) and you will find what works best for you. There is no "one fits all" answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I agree, there is not really a best way, and a specific technique is often shooter, context and equipment related/driven. The big benefit of NOT canting the gun is that the sight picture remains exact to both hands shooting and the recoil with sights/dot movement to zero too. Test both to see actual results in points and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, jim vaughan said: If one zeros at say 25m, then the bullet impact will be no different to shooting with a vertical gun. You clearly don't understand ballistics then The impact difference is mathematically and practically demonstrable. Edited August 21, 2021 by SGT_Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, SGT_Schultz said: You clearly don't understand ballistics then The impact difference is mathematically and practically demonstrable. True, but by the time you jerk the trigger with your weak hand, it won't make much difference at handgun distances. LOL! I don't cant the gun because I can't get my elbow in behind the gun. Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 I went to the range and shot about 100 rounds weak hand. I don't think the cant helps. I just need to learn to work the trigger properly with my weak hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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