RL 1100 new press setup issues.

[Baseballberger21]

I am also having a similar issue, 

 

new machine with only 3-400 rounds though it, noticed the primer tube assembly was a bit loose, when I went to gently snug it down on the machine now the mounting bracket is locking up the primer slide bar, the bracket is pushing down on the slide bar and not allowing the assembly to properly push it forward and backwards when cycling. 
 

Could this part possibly be out of spec? 

[HOGRIDER]

27 minutes ago, Baseballberger21 said:

I am also having a similar issue, 

 

new machine with only 3-400 rounds though it, noticed the primer tube assembly was a bit loose, when I went to gently snug it down on the machine now the mounting bracket is locking up the primer slide bar, the bracket is pushing down on the slide bar and not allowing the assembly to properly push it forward and backwards when cycling. 
 

Could this part possibly be out of spec? 

This thread might help.............

 

Also take a look here:

 

https://www.dillonprecision.com/rl1100-product-videos.html

 

[ddc]

1 hour ago, Baseballberger21 said:

I am also having a similar issue, 

 

new machine with only 3-400 rounds though it, noticed the primer tube assembly was a bit loose, when I went to gently snug it down on the machine now the mounting bracket is locking up the primer slide bar, the bracket is pushing down on the slide bar and not allowing the assembly to properly push it forward and backwards when cycling. 
 

Could this part possibly be out of spec? 

 

If the primer slide activating lever mechanism was positioned a little low on the primer tube then when the bolts were snugged up it may have resulted in the activation lever being a hair too low.

 

If that mechanism is too low then the lever will run into the slide as it moves through its arc of motion.

 

It should be fairly easy to detect if that is the case.

 

That thread that @HOGRIDER referred to is good to read also.

Edited May 9, 2022 by ddc

[clw42]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but didn't want to start a new thread.  Also, this isn't a new press set up issue, just something I recently ran into with new primers.

 

I bought these primers from Powder Valley:

 

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/servicios-aventuras-small-pistol-primers/

 

First thing I noticed is that they don't like to flip in the flip tray.  It seems the ridge on the cup is almost non existent, not a huge deal but a bit of a pain in the ass. 

 

The real problem came when trying to run them through the press.  It would feed one or two, then invariably a primer would flip itself vertically into the space on the blue plastic primer feed tip at the end of the primer feed tube.  I've got maybe 15K rounds through the press give or take, so I didn't think that part would be worn, but I swapped it for a new one anyway.  That didn't fix the problem.  I double checked with some CCI's that I have to make sure it wasn't an alignment issue and those fed fine.

 

I decided to try the primer feed tube from my 650 since it has a brass fitting on the bottom and not that plastic tip and it worked like a charm, as it doesn't allow the next primer anywhere near dropping.

 

So my question is, why didn't Dillon use the same brass style in the first place?  There must be a reason.  I'll use it this way until I get through this lot of primers, then I'll switch back.

 

 

[HesedTech]

3 hours ago, clw42 said:

So my question is, why didn't Dillon use the same brass style in the first place?  There must be a reason.  I'll use it this way until I get through this lot of primers, then I'll switch back

It’s a safety issue.  The blue plastic tip allows primers to move a bit more when they flip or hang up. Your solid brass tip is more likely to cause primer detonation should one get jammed. 
 

This subject has been discussed before in other threads. 

[clw42]

3 hours ago, HesedTech said:

It’s a safety issue.  The blue plastic tip allows primers to move a bit more when they flip or hang up. Your solid brass tip is more likely to cause primer detonation should one get jammed. 
 

This subject has been discussed before in other threads. 

 

Yeah, that's what I figured.

 

Any other solutions to my issue then that anyone thinks might work?

[HOGRIDER]

8 minutes ago, clw42 said:

 

Yeah, that's what I figured.

 

Any other solutions to my issue then that anyone thinks might work?

As someone that's loaded on XL650s for MANY years, and now have been using the RL1100 for just over two years, I've always been a fanatic about safety!  Especially with the primer systems!  And thank God, I've never had a magazine detonation.

 

But I was experiencing less that expected performance with the RL1100's priming system flipping and canting primers during reloading.  So, at the recommendation of someone I trust, I decided to try the Photo Escape replacement "brass tips" that fit my 1100 magazine tube just fine!

 

https://photoescapeinc.com/products/replacement-brass-ends.html

 

Once I learned how and when to properly clean/maintain the 1100's primer delivery system, I have had ZERO priming issues with the brass tips or any other components as long as I keep the system clean as recommended.

 

HTHs!

[ddc]

3 minutes ago, HOGRIDER said:

As someone that's loaded on XL650s for MANY years, and now have been using the RL1100 for just over two years, I've always been a fanatic about safety!  Especially with the primer systems!  And thank God, I've never had a magazine detonation.

 

But I was experiencing less that expected performance with the RL1100's priming system flipping and canting primers during reloading.  So, at the recommendation of someone I trust, I decided to try the Photo Escape replacement "brass tips" that fit my 1100 magazine tube just fine!

 

https://photoescapeinc.com/products/replacement-brass-ends.html

 

Once I learned how and when to properly clean/maintain the 1100's primer delivery system, I have had ZERO priming issues with the brass tips or any other components as long as I keep the system clean as recommended.

 

HTHs!

 

Questions:

1. Did you use the 650 tip or the 750 tip for your 1100?

2. If there was a concern over using the Dillon 650 brass tip on a 1050/1100 is not that concern still valid when using the Photo Escape brass tip?

[HOGRIDER]

4 minutes ago, ddc said:

 

Questions:

1. Did you use the 650 tip or the 750 tip for your 1100?

2. If there was a concern over using the Dillon 650 brass tip on a 1050/1100 is not that concern still valid when using the Photo Escape brass tip?

@ddc

My understanding is the PE tips are strictly for the XL750.  There's also comments that they work on the 550 and 1050 machines:

 

https://uniquetek.com/product/T1739

 

I've been using the SP end for quiet some time, and IIRC, it was a perfect fit and didn't alter the OAL of the primer magazine tube.  Not familiar with the XL750; but it appears Dillon did make a different end and/or tube diameter for that machine.

 

I've studied the plastic tip that comes with the 1100; and have yet to figure out the reason it's preferred over a metal tip unless the plastic will actually "flex/give" if retracting a primer that's not fully seated flush in the primer slide..........

 

[ddc]

[clw42]

6 hours ago, HOGRIDER said:

As someone that's loaded on XL650s for MANY years, and now have been using the RL1100 for just over two years, I've always been a fanatic about safety!  Especially with the primer systems!  And thank God, I've never had a magazine detonation.

 

But I was experiencing less that expected performance with the RL1100's priming system flipping and canting primers during reloading.  So, at the recommendation of someone I trust, I decided to try the Photo Escape replacement "brass tips" that fit my 1100 magazine tube just fine!

 

https://photoescapeinc.com/products/replacement-brass-ends.html

 

Once I learned how and when to properly clean/maintain the 1100's primer delivery system, I have had ZERO priming issues with the brass tips or any other components as long as I keep the system clean as recommended.

 

HTHs!

 

Thanks for this!

 

I did have another replacement tip in my stash of spare parts so I replaced it with another one and loaded 100 without a problem.  This was going back to the plastic.  We'll see how long it lasts.  I'll snag that two pack of brass fittings though anyway, just to tinker with for possible future issues.

[HOGRIDER]

8 hours ago, clw42 said:

 

Thanks for this!

 

I did have another replacement tip in my stash of spare parts so I replaced it with another one and loaded 100 without a problem.  This was going back to the plastic.  We'll see how long it lasts.  I'll snag that two pack of brass fittings though anyway, just to tinker with for possible future issues.

[dillon]

The reason for the plastic tips is that they are flexible, and will deform easily to prevent an out of round primer from getting crushed and igniting during a misfeed. They are easily replaced by the end user as well.

[HOGRIDER]

FWIW:

From another S1050/RL1100 user group discussing brass receiving crooked/upside down/no primers during loading:

 

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do you know why that’s happening? I had that issue because primers were getting stuck in the blue plastic tip but I switched to the primer tube from my 650 as it had a brass tip and it works perfectly