Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Any of these guns out there yet ? besides JJ’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japarker82 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I think his is the only one! Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Practicalomaha Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I have been waiting for them to come out. Last I heard was they might be released by end of year. But not holding my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 When I asked at locap nats this year they said hopefully end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 Why do I feel like this is the DMX all over again. the world is making me a pessimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Practicalomaha Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I wonder what price point they will be at? Last rumor I heard was maybe around $3,700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 If it mimics the checkmate deal it’s not a bad price. but it’s gotta come with 1-170mm 2-141mm mags and a optics mount. factory warranty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Superkaratemonkeyfighter said: If it mimics the checkmate deal it’s not a bad price. but it’s gotta come with 1-170mm 2-141mm mags and a optics mount. factory warranty Hopefully they are actually 170 and 140s, unlike the CM which both require $35-50 extensions to get them out to the correct lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Yes right ! that be nice. But sometimes I think that they do that stuff on purpose to prop up the aftermarket. Which isn’t a bad thing. The performance car world is notorious for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrew456 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Took his class a couple of weeks ago and was told that he’s still going through prototypes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello0o0o0o Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Can't decide on this or the czechmate... Honestly, if this doesn't have mag reliability issues, then it will be an amazing option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I have a hard time thinking why would someone want to put $4k into a beretta open gun. I was going to assume the cost would be much lower? What's the appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chillywig said: I have a hard time thinking why would someone want to put $4k into a beretta open gun. I was going to assume the cost would be much lower? What's the appeal? Agree 100% JJ is going to have a hard time moving the needle on this one. It is seriously a Franken-gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 From the very few people whome I know that have shot JJ's, one a close friend, they all say the gun runs awesome and recoil is very good. Not sure about longevity but honestly the 92 series is a pretty tough pistol. Slide is already light as s#!t as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 17 hours ago, hello0o0o0o said: Can't decide on this or the czechmate... Honestly, if this doesn't have mag reliability issues, then it will be an amazing option. Have you looked at the Bul Armory open race guns (Ultimate Racer, UR Shorty, Bullesteros, etc.)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 The amount of time it's been in the prototype phase, sounds to me like they're having issues with turning a one-off custom into something that can be mass produced. When they build it for JJ, he's able to tech his own guns and tune them. The amount of support they have to provide for that is minimal, since it's one shooter. They would have to put a lot of resources into tooling and production and support if they started offering it to the masses. The point of the Beretta Open Gun is for marketing purposes. They sponsor JJ, and they need him shooting their pistol. So, would it even be worth retooling their production line to build more? The market is incredibly small, and I doubt there is enough demand for it, and the competition in the market is fierce. The point of sponsoring JJ is to show what a Beretta _can_ do at the extreme end of the scale, and show that Beretta pistols are competitive and entice people to buy the product (but not the actual Open gun). It's really the same arrangement that Sig has with Max Michele, where they have a sponsored shooter who shoots their handgun and shows how good they are, and then they use that to sell to their traditional customers (military/police/security). The customers that actually order hundreds and thousands of Sig and Beretta pistols and keep Beretta and Sig in business aren't buying them in configurations for Open or Carry Optics. They're just buying the standard base models, but in huge quantities. It's similar to F1 racing. You're not going to go buy the F1 that Mercedes builds for races and use it as your daily driver. But they market you the idea that "the very same engine you drive to your office job at 65mph is the same engine our F1 car had in it when it flipped at Le Mons" (even though, just like Open division in this sport, the F1 mercedes isn't mass produced and is highly customized). That's the beauty of marketing, they can just say "look what our pistols _could do_" and the police/military/security customers will go "wow that's awesome" and then order the pistols in regular configurations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Not knocking beretta. I have had a 92 since the late 90s. But never used it in a single uspsa match. Seems I have always had a gun that fit into whatever division better than my ol 92. If they could make an inexpensive open gun without a decocker I'd understand. Watching JJ use a 1 off gun doesn't change my opinion of my 92 either way. I bet he could kick ass with a yeet cannon. I honestly can't think of any new shooter picking a 92 to shoot in any division, over some of the other guns at the same price point, unless they just really liked the looks of the beretta or mel gibson lethal weapon fans - if there is such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Any chance to look like the Road warrior I’ll take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 11:31 AM, sc68cal said: The amount of time it's been in the prototype phase, sounds to me like they're having issues with turning a one-off custom into something that can be mass produced. This is what I heard as well, and the other issue is the longevity of the the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attakmint Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Beretta recently announced a comp for the 92 series. Looking at JJ's instagram page, though, it looks to be a different design from his. This one is a shorty and his is a full length comp. https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/92-series-muzzle-brake-1-2x28-92-series/e02937/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Lane Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Build your own: https://www.tonisystem.it/en/beretta-92x-performance/92/ https://christiansencomponents.com/product-category/pistol/toni-system-components-pistol/beretta/beretta-92x-performance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader98 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 6:53 AM, Superkaratemonkeyfighter said: Any of these guns out there yet ? besides JJ’s I saw an ad once about those coming out this year but I don’t think it will, doesn’t seem practical for them to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo_Victor Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I shot his open gun recently. It was interesting to say the least but i personally dont think its comparable to a properly built custom 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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