Sig P320 Pre Travel vs Trigger Weight

[cperazza]

If you had to pick between:
1) Short pre travel, heavier pull, or:

  - Apex Trigger

  - Gray Guns Trigger

2) Longer pre travel, lighter trigger pull

 - Legion Trigger

Which one would you pick and why?

Any other things to consider?

[echotango]

3) Short pre-travel, light trigger pull (2lbs 4oz)

-Grey guns trigger kit

-Armory Craft trigger

 

 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by echotango

[Michael303]

I'd go for lighter pull.  In my experience it benefits accuracy more than pretravel.

[George16]

2 hours ago, echotango said:

3) Short pre-travel, light trigger pull (2lbs 4oz)

-Grey guns trigger kit

-Armory Craft trigger

 

 

 

 

This, but instead of the Armory craft trigger, I have the Keres adjustable trigger installed.

[B585]

I would go for the shortest creep....the most crisp break possible.

[mannyc]

On 1/30/2021 at 1:19 PM, echotango said:

3) Short pre-travel, light trigger pull (2lbs 4oz)

-Grey guns trigger kit

-Armory Craft trigger

 

 

 

 

I have this set up, and it is great for competition.

[BillChunn]

On 1/30/2021 at 4:19 PM, echotango said:

3) Short pre-travel, light trigger pull (2lbs 4oz)

-Grey guns trigger kit

-Armory Craft trigger

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/30/2021 at 8:54 PM, B585 said:

I would go for the shortest creep....the most crisp break possible.

 

16 hours ago, mannyc said:

I have this set up, and it is great for competition.

Same. Armory Craft if you like a wide trigger.  Keres is narrower. Both are adjustable for pre and over travel. 

 

BC

[021411]

On 1/30/2021 at 3:19 PM, echotango said:

3) Short pre-travel, light trigger pull (2lbs 4oz)

-Grey guns trigger kit

-Armory Craft trigger

 

 

 

 

What spring combo did you use in the kit? I've been out of the loop with GG's newly included springs. 

[echotango]

20 minutes ago, 021411 said:

What spring combo did you use in the kit? I've been out of the loop with GG's newly included springs. 

Competition. 

[021411]

2 hours ago, echotango said:

Competition. 

Both sets are labeled "competition" hence my question. 

 

• Grayguns original competition sear springs
• Intermediate competition sear springs

Did you use the original soft competition trigger bar spring as well? Or the snappy reset version. 

[echotango]

22 minutes ago, 021411 said:

Both sets are labeled "competition" hence my question. 

 

• Grayguns original competition sear springs
• Intermediate competition sear springs

Did you use the original soft competition trigger bar spring as well? Or the snappy reset version. 

Sorry, I thought is said tactical or something. I'll have to look. But I used the lighter one. 

I used the trigger bar spring that came in the gg kit. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by echotango

[mrvip27]

On 2/3/2021 at 6:24 PM, 021411 said:

Both sets are labeled "competition" hence my question. 

 

• Grayguns original competition sear springs
• Intermediate competition sear springs

Did you use the original soft competition trigger bar spring as well? Or the snappy reset version. 

i would like to know the difference between the original and intermediate as well

[Rich406]

Pre travel doesn’t really matter to me. To me the most important metric is the reset distance. 

[Foxtrotx1]

I was under the impression that Bruce from grey guns said removing the pre-travel with the new P320 drop safety was not a good idea. Am I remembering that incorrectly? 

[BillChunn]

In December of last year, Bruce Gray posted this (link)

 

Straight from me: Do not use any other trigger with our P320 Competition Trigger Kit components. 
 

Reducing pretravel via an adjustment on the trigger defeats the sear safety cam, messes with trigger mass balance & tolerance for impact, and degrades striker lock integrity. 

 

I invented the sear safety cam feature around 2015 to enhance drop safety in our original P320 Competition kits.  We made our system available to my friends in NH for incorporation into the Voluntary Upgrade. 

 

Our modern P320 AST & AHT triggers effectively and safely reduce some gross pretravel and slop via optimal fit and finish, while supporting the Voluntary Upgrade fire control system to which I contributed.  Our complete P320 Competition Trigger Kits provide the best possible pull characteristics to be obtained, consistent with the margin of tolerance for impact and rough handling we demand for your safety.   

 

And anyhoo, there is literally nothing to be gained by sacrificing mechanical safety for that tiny reduction in travel which, unlike the purely mechanical qualities of overtravel, pull weight, and break texture, is best accommodated through proper technique and training.

If you don't believe me, ask Mason Lane, Isaac Lockwood, Yong Lee or James Delambert.  
 

Thanks for reading and Merry Christmas! 

 

BC

Edited March 4, 2021 by BillChunn

[bimmer1980]

On 2/11/2021 at 8:47 PM, Rich406 said:

Pre travel doesn’t really matter to me. To me the most important metric is the reset distance. 

Same here. As long as your finger is long enough it doesn´t matter. Shorter reset is always nicer.