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29 minutes ago, IL-SIG said:


I am a CRO. Asking someone to intentionally violate a major safety rule that would result in a DQ is an absolutely horrible idea and should never be condoned. What would the explanation be if that person accidentally shot them self or someone else?  Never encourage or request someone to intentionally violate a safety rule that puts anyone in danger!

I wondered about that but I’m sure it would have been done safely. Made a simulated loaded gun?

 At my first RO CLASS we were doing our range day and one of the students had a new open gun. The RMI told him to do something like perform a foot fault maybe. Anyway he gets the beep and takes off in a dead sprint to each target and shot it point blank. I “think” he got tossed from the course?

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8 hours ago, IL-SIG said:


I am a CRO. Asking someone to intentionally violate a major safety rule that would result in a DQ is an absolutely horrible idea and should never be condoned. What would the explanation be if that person accidentally shot them self or someone else?  Never encourage or request someone to intentionally violate a safety rule that puts anyone in danger!

Dan,

 

You are correct.  As initially described that was a bad example, but it was done safely.  One of the club members that was helping out with the class had an Open gun that did not go into slide lock when the magazine was empty.  IIRC it was Dave Clark (A6252... yes, a 4 digit USPSA number!). He went through the motions of loading and making ready with an empty magazine so there was no danger to anyone.   My apologies for not adding that detail.

 

Another student was told to put a foot way over a charge line (like about 2') while engaging the first 2 targets in a 4 target array, then pick up his foot and engage the last 2.  The number of procedural calls on that one generated quite the discussion on "advantage gained".....

 

BC

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8 hours ago, Sarge said:

I wondered about that but I’m sure it would have been done safely. Made a simulated loaded gun?

 At my first RO CLASS we were doing our range day and one of the students had a new open gun. The RMI told him to do something like perform a foot fault maybe. Anyway he gets the beep and takes off in a dead sprint to each target and shot it point blank. I “think” he got tossed from the course?

Mafia hit man?   In training?  😂

 

BC

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10 hours ago, BillChunn said:

Dan,

 

You are correct.  As initially described that was a bad example, but it was done safely.  One of the club members that was helping out with the class had an Open gun that did not go into slide lock when the magazine was empty.  IIRC it was Dave Clark (A6252... yes, a 4 digit USPSA number!). He went through the motions of loading and making ready with an empty magazine so there was no danger to anyone.   My apologies for not adding that detail.

 

Another student was told to put a foot way over a charge line (like about 2') while engaging the first 2 targets in a 4 target array, then pick up his foot and engage the last 2.  The number of procedural calls on that one generated quite the discussion on "advantage gained".....

 

BC

 

Thanks Bill. I’m certainly glad everyone was safe. From my point of view, that is the most important role we have as ROs. 

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I knew three CROs who took the individual one-on-one instruction.  This was a decade or so ago.  I do not remember the exact name of the program.

They were very good ROs to begin and were very good CROs.

I have had mandated on-line training.  So good and some so-so.

 

No offense intended but being an RO is not being a rocket scientist. However, considering the nature of the multi-gun class a few years ago in AZ was poor.  Reading the rules out loud is not instruction.

 

So in-person and on-line can work effectively just as well as not.  It depends on the instruction or course material.

 

 

 

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