Squirrel45 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 What do you guys think is best a longer overall length or shorter one for speed loading a cylinder? I was under the idea shorter is better but I saw a very accomplished shooter today running them longer. What are your thoughts ? This is for 929 Thanks Squirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 The length of the bullet sticking out won't make much difference. Round nose bullets are the best of all. Any shape with a flat end can slow you down once in a while, depending on how that clip hits the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I took the accuracy issues that were mentioned with 38 short colts in 357 cyclinders to its logical conclusion and made my 929 rounds as long as possible. With a slight safety margin however. In my initial load development one round did work it’s way out and jam the cylinder. In my wife’s gun ...of course I load 1.185” but I do use a heavy long 165gr .358 round. Out of curiosity I should see how deep it does sit in the case. Never bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 The bullet and fit of cases to moon clips will make a bigger difference than any OAL differences in 9mm. Now in a 357 mag chamber, 38 short colts at under 1.200 are best, 38 specials are ok, 357 mags are worst. IF you're using Speed Loaders short colts are worse and I like the 357 magnum best (no tricked out Comp III's though, just uncut ones with the cut ones 38 specials are best). The issues with Speed Loaders are that they need enough cartridge sticking out of the Speed Loader to find the Cylinder. With Moon Clipped rounds the longer the OAL the more a perfect fit in the Clip matters, as a slight angle at 1.100 becomes more acute, and problematic, at 1.600. Secondary is ejecting the spent cases the shorter the case the quicker the star passes it on the way back into the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 From reading this, if a person has a 10mm/40 Ruger and he is thinking about using 10 mm brass to get around the small primer shortage, it would be best to cut down the brass to .40 length? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Or just buy 40 brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake617 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 ....or start shooting/reloading 10mm if you have LPP. Bowling pins certainly respond better to 10mm than to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, revoman said: Or just buy 40 brass 40 small pistol primers 10mm large pistol primers What I was wondering was if cut down 10's would make for quicker reloads than full length 10's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Round nose bullets and the difference would probably be nil with practice reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 22 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: From reading this, if a person has a 10mm/40 Ruger and he is thinking about using 10 mm brass to get around the small primer shortage, it would be best to cut down the brass to .40 length? Not worth the effort especially if you only have to use them for practice. Just load them the shortest OAL you can AND use RN bullets. The key for the longer OAL is a tight fit of the moon clip to the brass. Though I used 44 Russian in my m29, and was able to make master in USPSA before the 8 shot rule change, and the OAL on them was 1.280 which is longer than most 10mm loads. And the Moon Clips weren't super tight. Now using 44 Magnums or 357 Magnums at 1.5" starts getting to be a pain. But even then I don't think I'd ever go to the effort to shorten them. Your plan, minus trimming, is very wise though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 All other things being equal, shorter OAL will be faster to reload. As others have stated, the difference won't be tremendous, and there are other factors that are more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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