SJBriggs Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Great suggestions, I really appreciate the replies. So far, I've been able to score some Autocomp, HS6, and N340. I'm going to start with those and if I can get my hands on some AA7, SWMP, or Silouhette, I'll jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'm curious about whether there are more setback issues with 115 JHPs loaded long vs 124s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, bigeric said: I'm curious about whether there are more setback issues with 115 JHPs loaded long vs 124s I have no setback issues with 115 JHPs loaded to 1.161". The powder is not compressed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, zzt said: I have no setback issues with 115 JHPs loaded to 1.161". The powder is not compressed either. Same. No problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sarge said: Same. No problems That’s good to hear. Which brand 115 JHP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, bigeric said: That’s good to hear. Which brand 115 JHP? Montana Gold mostly but also Precision Delta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 My preference is for Hornady 115 HAP's. Right now they are made of unobtainium. They are the most accurate bullet in my guns. Second is Precision Delta, even though the OALs are all over the place. I don't think I'll be ordering from them again, because the jacked up their prices during the shortage. Third (actually a tie for second) is Montana Gold. I will definitely be ordering from then again if I can find stock in the 15 seconds it is available. Fourth is Everglades. I will not be ordering from them again, because they turned out to be price whores lately, plus their bullets are not as accurate in my guns. I received 3000 115 Zero JHPs and am waiting for 3000 more. Everyone who shoots them swears by them. So I'm hoping they are as accurate as the HAPs. If not I'll use them for SCSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Zero JHPs aren't quite as accurate as HAPs (not much is unless you can get XTPs or Geco Hexagons), but they aren't far off and either is plenty good enough for USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 12 hours ago, shred said: Zero JHPs aren't quite as accurate as HAPs (not much is unless you can get XTPs or Geco Hexagons), but they aren't far off and either is plenty good enough for USPSA. I have XTPs. They are too expensive to shoot at paper. Never heard of the Geco Hexagons, but I love their target ammo in 9mm and 22LR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sti38super Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I used Shilloutte for years and switched to Hodgdon CFE Pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJBriggs Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 hours ago, sti38super said: I used Shilloutte for years and switched to Hodgdon CFE Pistol Why the change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sti38super Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 CFE is cheaper and cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrado_kid Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 10:47 PM, SJBriggs said: Great suggestions, I really appreciate the replies. So far, I've been able to score some Autocomp, HS6, and N340. I'm going to start with those and if I can get my hands on some AA7, SWMP, or Silouhette, I'll jump on it. AA7 and SWMP are almost identical. I was having more unburnt powder in my gun then with AA7, 5" kkm hybird barrel with two popple holes. I have used autocomp, SWMP, and AA7. I finally settled on AA7 because the dot tracked better then with autocomp. Both are good powders just personal preference. I was at 7.0gn of autocomp with 1.170oal 125jhp (zeros). I use 9.7gn of AA7 with 125gn jhp and 9.4gn with 125gn blues, everything is at 1.170oal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 3:15 PM, zzt said: Buying a pound of each is an exercise in futility. Been there, done that. Waste of time. That being said, I would not have known it was a waste of time if I hadn't done that. Here is the drill. The 9mm case is capacity constrained. You can go for soft, or flat, but not both at the same time. Or you can go for a little of each. Most of the people who shoot the fast powders like Silhouette and WAC do so under 124gr bullets because the case is not so full the powder spills out when the shell plate turns. That doesn't help flatness or softness. You want as much gas as you can get to work your ports and baffles. That requires slow powders. George nailed it above. AA7 or SWMP powders are the way to go. The do not fill so much they spill when loading, AND they are very compressible. So if you have to load short for some reason you can. Try that with 3N38. One of the other things you try not to do in 9mm major is blow up the gun. N340 is way to fast for major. I know you want to shoot 125s, but I'll recommend you also try 115s. My major load is 10.2gr SWMP under a 115 HAP for 169 PF. It is not a compressed load at 1.161" OAL and it does not spill. AA7 is the same powder, just manufactured in the US. When my SWMP is gone I'm switching to AA7. They seem to be more consistent lot to lot. Rather than attach a picture showing how full each powder fills the case, I'll link to the article that included it. Read the article, look at the charts, and then narrow down your powder search. Just remember, a higher weigh of powder makes more gas, which means softer, flatter or some of each. Welcome to Open. https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/1/9/how-to-use-9-major-in-a-short-barrel/ What brand of barrel are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Furrly said: What brand of barrel are you running? STI Trubore 9mm with custom comp cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, zzt said: STI Trubore 9mm with custom comp cuts. Gotcha, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My go to powder is AA7, I've tried a few such as SWMP, HS-6, Autocomp, etc etc. AA7 tracks the dot extremely well, with less perceived felt recoil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWNaplesFL Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Most guys at my club (including me) are running AutoComp. I’m running 6.8gr with a 124 jhp @ 1.155-1.160. I know 1 guy running 6.5, 124 Fmj @ 1.135 (too short for my gun). But both make major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I like many of the members here used AutoComp for all my 9 major loads. It worked very well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJBriggs Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 Going to start working up some loads using the powders I got (HS6, AutoComp, Silhouette, SWMP, etc.). Haven't been able to find any AA7, but I do have some SWMP being shipped to me. That's as close as I could come AA7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, SJBriggs said: That's as close as I could come AA7. AA7 is the same powder as SWMP. The only difference is it is made in the USA. There may be some variation in lots, but what you find with SWMP will be essentially the same with AA7. I'm switching to AA7 when my SWMP runs out, because their lot to lot variation is smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeNerd Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 On 12/7/2020 at 11:04 AM, SJBriggs said: Morning, all. I'm looking to eventually move into open division and I'm looking to get some powder recommendations. I've spoken to a few shooters at my local club, but due to the current shortages, I'd like to get some additional recommendations. When I get everything set up, I'll be switching my Honcho over to the 9mm open configuration, and I'll be shooting 125 gr JHP. I know it's a tall order, but I'm looking for a powder that: a) isn't overly temperature sensitive, b) won't fill up the case too high, c) is easy to load in my Dillon 750, d) shoots clean, and e) isn't too snappy. Recommendations that I've gotten so far are N340, N350, and Autocomp. If there is anything else that fits my bill, I'd love to hear it. Powder is getting hard to find now too... Thanks in advance! Where are you with load testing? How goes it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJBriggs Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 hours ago, DodgeNerd said: Where are you with load testing? How goes it? Haven't gotten to it yet. I have all the components, but I've been pretty preoccupied by shooting limited and C/O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftkill Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I spoke with XXX at CZ Custom, he said AA7 is too abrasive and will destroy barrels. He uses N350 to make major and 3N38 is good too. 125 Zero bullets. Small rifle primers gets another 20 fps. Autocomp is probably preferable. but as a pro shooter and expert he's shooting N350. That's good enough for me to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 AA7 but each powder is unique and different for every shooter. You want to make sure your dot tracks well, and take into consideration recoil impulse, how clean, dirty, etc the powder is, etc. Some of the good powders have been mentioned HS6, Autocomp, AA7, etc.. Try them all and make a decision. Each powder is subjective what may work for others may not work for you~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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