IHAVEGAS Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 One of the local clubs has been running a .22 squad at their USPSA matches this year. You have to figure out how you want to handle steel and the score at the end of the day is zero, but I get the impression that some folks have been having fun with it. With ammo pricey enough that it hurts to shoot it and some folks cutting back on match round counts I wonder if that will drive people toward low capacity divisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I’m so against this it’s not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: With ammo pricey enough that it hurts to shoot it and some folks cutting back on match round counts I wonder if that will drive people toward low capacity divisions? Why? Match round count is the same for all Divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Nathanb said: I’m so against this it’s not even funny. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, zzt said: One club now squads ALL PCC shooters in one squad. A lot of the USPSA is for centerfire handguns only crowd objected to shooting with them. LMAO-great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Why not add rimfire rifles too while you are at it? You could call it "ICC" (inferior caliber carbine) Or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr. Phil said: Why not add rimfire rifles too while you are at it? You could call it "ICC" (inferior caliber carbine) Or something SGC Squirrel Gun Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Just now, GrumpyOne said: SGC Squirrel Gun Class Exactly!! And, hey, could we shoot USPSA with airsoft? Of course it won't break the cardboard... Oh it might not knock the steel down either. But man would it be fun! Edited September 10, 2021 by Dr. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dr. Phil said: Exactly!! And, hey, could we shoot USPSA with airsoft? Of course it won't break the cardboard... Oh it might not knock the steel down either. But man would it be fun! did that once as a surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 That is some funny stuff! But man were you ever fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 This is coming from USPSA next Feb. Action 22. Lots still being worked out. It’s supposed to be a starter game, but once young people learn how fast you can go with .22 I bet it takes over. Just need reliable reloadable .22 mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 hours ago, zzt said: One club now squads ALL PCC shooters in one squad. A lot of the USPSA is for centerfire handguns only crowd objected to shooting with them. excellent development! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alleycatdad Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 How 'bout "The Yo Bro Rowdy Rimfire Rodeo?" ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagellord Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, llamasabound said: This is coming from USPSA next Feb. Action 22. Lots still being worked out. It’s supposed to be a starter game, but once young people learn how fast you can go with .22 I bet it takes over. Just need reliable reloadable .22 mags. It better not... I bet a lot of clubs simply won't recognize the division. I do not want to deal with 22's not knocking steel over, and I bet a lot of people feel the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intheshaw1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Bagellord said: It better not... I bet a lot of clubs simply won't recognize the division. I do not want to deal with 22's not knocking steel over, and I bet a lot of people feel the same way. Isn't steel challenge supposed to be the starter game and already allow 22s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Could we get a division for my .25 Ravens? A Production Raven division (PRD) and an optic division for my .25 Raven with a Cmore (PORD)? I want to shoot all my guns!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister4 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 So really the only 2 valid points are not knocking the poppers over and that .22 is not really a valid defensive cartridge, and both of these I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Sinister4 said: So really the only 2 valid points are not knocking the poppers over and that .22 is not really a valid defensive cartridge, and both of these I can see. I think just not wanting it is also a valid reason. Just because we can doesn't mean we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 hours ago, llamasabound said: This is coming from USPSA next Feb. Action 22. Lots still being worked out. It’s supposed to be a starter game, but once young people learn how fast you can go with .22 I bet it takes over. Just need reliable reloadable .22 mags. Not just young people, it'll make the hardest part of this game (the shooting) stupid easy which will move people from other divisions to these new rimfire divisions. I think on top of asking "should we allow Rimfire" we should be wondering "are we okay if the sport moves to majority rimfire" as that's a possibility once the door is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagellord Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Intheshaw1 said: Isn't steel challenge supposed to be the starter game and already allow 22s.... Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister4 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: Not just young people, it'll make the hardest part of this game (the shooting) stupid easy which will move people from other divisions to these new rimfire divisions. I think on top of asking "should we allow Rimfire" we should be wondering "are we okay if the sport moves to majority rimfire" as that's a possibility once the door is open. The same could be said for PCC as well, and it is a good point for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Not just no. Hell no. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, PatJones said: Not just no. Hell no. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas I hope you don't shoot MultiGun ... Those rules effectively do away with two of those three already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 hours ago, zzt said: Why? Match round count is the same for all Divisions. More challenging stage planning, more risk (steels), additional effort (reloads). Adding something back so you don't feel like it was a long drive for a short movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 23 hours ago, Bagellord said: It better not... I bet a lot of clubs simply won't recognize the division. I do not want to deal with 22's not knocking steel over, and I bet a lot of people feel the same way. Talk to your AD. They’ve been entertaining proposals on this for a while and are quite close. It will probably be shortened paper only stages, perhaps run after level 1 matches. I share the broader concern that it will take over, and not in a good way, and 10 years from now all that will be left is indoor airsoft. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but an unwelcome development from where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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