Malarky112 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Ive got enough for this years matches, its next year Im worried about. I shot with a PCC guy in my squad last weekend, 1st time using it. 1st two stages were a dumpster fire. He decided to stop and drop out so he didn't waste anymore of his ammo. Ive read a lot about the ammo shortage and two things I didn't see mentioned here. Raw materials...mining operations were hit hard by covid and stuff like lead and copper has been harder to get and more expensive. Trucking/transportation is another issue, the trucking industry has been shorthanded for years and only getting worse. They are having troubles moving supplies around, especailly if they have to choose between what they deem "necessary items" and ammo components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastcat Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I have been lucky to find supplies, all but primers. Try your state firearms/gun forums, at the Reloading Classified's, they are selling stuff and fast. I missed about 5,000 small pistol primers by 2 mins, argh! But check often on 2 forums here in Wa and Ore. I usually can shoot 5 Matches a month, but getting very low on primers. So down to 2 or 3 a month. Once Dec comes along, it gets too wet and cold here, good time to stop. Hopefully next year by March things get better. For brass, check your local Ranges. They have brass of all sorts. I just picked up 11 lbs of 9mm yesterday. For powder I have found the Forums and lucky enough to get orders placed at the big Box Stores. Ask your family, co-workers, neighbors and friends for brass, primers and powders. Have them watch for ya. Sometimes the smaller town gun stores could have supplies. Hopefully by the end of the year, maybe 2021, we'll start seeing the shelves stocked again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 That being said they are subject to the same supply lines for raw materials. Which obviously are being crushed with demand and other extraneous forces. Factor in delivery issues discussed in other posts and here we are. Ive read a lot about the ammo shortage and two things I didn't see mentioned here. Raw materials...Trucking/transportation is another issue... Really, post 14? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarky112 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 22 hours ago, iflyskyhigh said: Really, post 14? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lol...it was a long day...my apologizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Lol...it was a long day...my apologizes. [emoji4] I know. It doesn’t translate well, but I was just busting your [emoji460]️ [emoji460]️. I thought about it after I wrote it and realized it probably didn’t come across as the joking it was intended to be. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I have enough supplies stocked for the next year (10K). I have also limited my range fire and increased my dry fire. That is about all you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I have enough supplies stocked for the next year (10K). I have also limited my range fire and increased my dry fire. That is about all you can do.We’ll all get lots o live fire experience when the civil war starts. Kidding....maybe....Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, iflyskyhigh said: We’ll all get lots o live fire experience when the civil war starts. Kidding....maybe.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Nah, you will all be out of ammo by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvmojo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 19 hours ago, abb1 said: Nah, you will all be out of ammo by then Yeah, next we'll hear that the ammo shortage is a conspiracy to dry up all the ammo before the insurrection really get's started! Somehow it will be Trump's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3324temp Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 This is the 3rd or 4th shortage I lived through and am properly stocked. New shooters will learn to be prepared for the next shortage. When there is no shortage and things are cheap, buy and maintain a 2year stock. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, L3324temp said: This is the 3rd or 4th shortage I lived through and am properly stocked. New shooters will learn to be prepared for the next shortage. When there is no shortage and things are cheap, buy and maintain a 2year stock. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk At least! It cracks me up to hear all the newbs calling us hoarders every time we shrug off these panic events. But if the learn they will buy a ton of supplies next time it gets better. It’s not hoarding if you use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) Well I broke my own rule. When I am down to my last case of primers I order 15k more. This time I already had 9mm major, minor and PCC loaded up for the rest of the year. So I figured I'd wait for the rebate program again this year. WRONG! By the time I figured out it was not just ammo that was flying out, I was too late. I still have that last case, but 5000 won't get me very far next year. 1 hour ago, L3324temp said: When there is no shortage and things are cheap, buy and maintain a 2year stock. Yeah, I'm there on everything except small pistol primers. Edited September 21, 2020 by zzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Nah, you will all be out of ammo by then [emoji1787]I will?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I’ve got more supplies right now than I might ever use in my lifetime. And when things get better I’ll buy more. And when I die my kids can have it or sell it. I highly doubt the stuff will go bad or depreciate. Consider it a transfer of wealth. In the correct direction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 hours ago, iflyskyhigh said: I’ve got more supplies right now than I might ever use in my lifetime. And when things get better I’ll buy more. And when I die my kids can have it or sell it. I highly doubt the stuff will go bad or depreciate. Consider it a transfer of wealth. In the correct direction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Same here. If I shoot all the locals near me I have 7-8 years worth of powder and primers on hand and I’ll still buy all I can get when they become available again. Bullets cost more so I only have 2-3 years worth on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Worked the Indiana Section this last weekend and heard more than once competitors talking about the supply shortage and their plans for shooting competitions going forward. Several seemed like they would be lucky to make it to the end of the year competing regularly and some were planning to go to dry fire only and shoot only during matches. Any match directors out there that are planning to have their Level II and up matches early in the season might be hard pressed to get people to signup for the matches not knowing about the ability to even have ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will77 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 hours ago, L3324temp said: This is the 3rd or 4th shortage I lived through and am properly stocked. New shooters will learn to be prepared for the next shortage. When there is no shortage and things are cheap, buy and maintain a 2year stock. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Same here ! These shortages are on a 4 year cycle hint hint ! Been reloading for 30 years I remember the mid 90’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, will77 said: Same here ! These shortages are on a 4 year cycle hint hint ! Been reloading for 30 years I remember the mid 90’s I started right before Sandy Hook and my reloading mentor was a guy who ran a small shop and specialized in reloading equipment and supplies. Taught me early on to always buy a sleeve of primers at a time minimum and 8lb jugs of powder are better values than 1lb at a time. He was a guy that had half a million loaded rounds at home and still loaded something everyday. I'll have to worry about my level of shooting sometime in 2022 if primers don't come back by then. That would be for centerfire. If I have to go to shooting steel matches with .22s then I'm not sure how long it would take to go through 100k + rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will77 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, aandabooks said: I started right before Sandy Hook and my reloading mentor was a guy who ran a small shop and specialized in reloading equipment and supplies. Taught me early on to always buy a sleeve of primers at a time minimum and 8lb jugs of powder are better values than 1lb at a time. He was a guy that had half a million loaded rounds at home and still loaded something everyday. I'll have to worry about my level of shooting sometime in 2022 if primers don't come back by then. That would be for centerfire. If I have to go to shooting steel matches with .22s then I'm not sure how long it would take to go through 100k + rounds. Nice my only concern is 22 my son is going through 300 rounds a week Ha at that rate my cmp surplus will run out in 2 years. If I would have known I’d have bought more 99.00 for 5,000 rounds, and I literally bought a truck load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverscooby27 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Matches are a lot less fun if you’re the only one shooting them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Dry fire more, incorporate movement drills, work on footwork, getting in and out of position, work on fundamentals, etc etc only shoot matches that count, don't waste ammo.. This too shall pass! Trade with friends, slowly but surely things will go back to normal as they always do~ Sucks to have powder, bullets, brass but no primers, lol~ I'm barely down to 3k primers but fortunately I have about 3k rounds loaded of minor and about 2k of major... So I am not totally desperate for now, lol~ Normally I go through 6 to 8k a month but times have changed... Sucks to have 60k in bullets, plenty of powder and brass but no primers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Silverscooby27 said: Matches are a lot less fun if you’re the only one shooting them.... ez high overall tho ez division win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 4:40 PM, warpspeed said: Shoot til slide lock then take up trap shoot until slide lock... then go fishing/catching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124gr9mm Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Silverscooby27 said: Matches are a lot less fun if you’re the only one shooting them.... Agree. I usually run practice knockdown matches in the winter, but with COVID and the ammo shortage I'm not what to do. Most of the guys that show up aren't reloaders, so I'd hate to see them go out and spend $35+/box for ammo (if they can find it). We want to run SOMETHING, but not sure what to do. Maybe grab a case of .22lr and just do rimfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Agree. I usually run practice knockdown matches in the winter, but with COVID and the ammo shortage I'm not what to do. Most of the guys that show up aren't reloaders, so I'd hate to see them go out and spend $35+/box for ammo (if they can find it). We want to run SOMETHING, but not sure what to do. Maybe grab a case of .22lr and just do rimfire.You know where to find a case of 22LR? [emoji38] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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