tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) I see the XDM Elite is selling for about $540 online vs the Canik TP9SFx at $550. I don't think there's anyway the TP9SFx can compete. What do you think? https://www.centerfireguns.com/springfield-armory-sp-9m-4-5-tb-osp-fde-19r-xdmt9459fhco.html?source=gundeals XDM has suppressor sights, threaded barrel, optic ready, cerakote finish. Most important is springfield has lifetime warranty and also has all the parts you ever need in case your handgun breaks down. What do you think? Edited August 25, 2020 by tdo722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Suppressor sights and threaded barrel meaningless to me. Both are optic ready and every poly gun made in last 40 years has some kinda corrosion resistant finish. Warranty and parts definitely an advantage. I have been around block a few times and seen more than one of these flash in the pan imports like the Canik suddenly disappear and leave folks hanging with no support, parts, or mags. Anyway do like the elite frame and mag funnel. I have an older XDMosp and really like it. Messed with a Canik in a gun store. Felt like a rattle trap POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Joe4d said: Warranty and parts definitely an advantage. I have been around block a few times and seen more than one of these flash in the pan imports like the Canik suddenly disappear and leave folks hanging with no support, parts, or mags. Caracal comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 6 hours ago, tdo722 said: I see the XDM Elite is selling for about $540 online vs the Canik TP9SFx at $550. I don't think there's anyway the TP9SFx can compete. What do you think? https://www.centerfireguns.com/springfield-armory-sp-9m-4-5-tb-osp-fde-19r-xdmt9459fhco.html?source=gundeals XDM has suppressor sights, threaded barrel, optic ready, cerakote finish. Most important is springfield has lifetime warranty and also has all the parts you ever need in case your handgun breaks down. What do you think? I like the XDM elite option, but the pistol in your link in the plain XDM not the Elite. The normal XDM is fine too, but the trigger is not as good as the Elite model and the elite does cost a bit more, about 650 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Well, FWIW, kinda dig the Canik. Depending on your application/use for the gun, if you are just gonna "game", it's gonna be hard to beat the Canik for dollar to dollar comparison. The Canik trigger is VERY nice out of the box and have actually seen them already w/ red dot mounted for 700 and sometimes less. And for about 150 bucks, you can upgrade a few parts (Feedomsmith trigger, guide rod/spring) on the Canik and it's a runner. It'll boil down to personal preference-- I started out very long ago shooting an XD in production and rented one not long ago to see how they've changed-- good gun, still would buy the Canik at it's current price point. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, RJH said: I like the XDM elite option, but the pistol in your link in the plain XDM not the Elite. The normal XDM is fine too, but the trigger is not as good as the Elite model and the elite does cost a bit more, about 650 or so. Everywhere I looked this Model # XDMT9459FHCOSP and UPC # 706397925734 indicates it's an elite version. Why is it not? Can you tell from the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Joe4d said: Suppressor sights and threaded barrel meaningless to me. Both are optic ready and every poly gun made in last 40 years has some kinda corrosion resistant finish. Warranty and parts definitely an advantage. I have been around block a few times and seen more than one of these flash in the pan imports like the Canik suddenly disappear and leave folks hanging with no support, parts, or mags. Anyway do like the elite frame and mag funnel. I have an older XDMosp and really like it. Messed with a Canik in a gun store. Felt like a rattle trap POS Suppressor sights is crucial if you put a red dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dfwmiket said: Well, FWIW, kinda dig the Canik. Depending on your application/use for the gun, if you are just gonna "game", it's gonna be hard to beat the Canik for dollar to dollar comparison. The Canik trigger is VERY nice out of the box and have actually seen them already w/ red dot mounted for 700 and sometimes less. And for about 150 bucks, you can upgrade a few parts (Feedomsmith trigger, guide rod/spring) on the Canik and it's a runner. It'll boil down to personal preference-- I started out very long ago shooting an XD in production and rented one not long ago to see how they've changed-- good gun, still would buy the Canik at it's current price point. -Mike I bought the Canik after watching so many youtubers pumping the damn thing. I forgot to look out for this though since I just got back to this hobby after a long hiatus. This is a crucial feature to have on the Canik but missing. The damn suppressor sights for the red dot system. See picture in the above post. Also this makes the gun looks super nice too. Edited August 25, 2020 by tdo722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, tdo722 said: Everywhere I looked this Model # XDMT9459FHCOSP and UPC # 706397925734 indicates it's an elite version. Why is it not? Can you tell from the picture? The picture is not an Elite because that gun doesn't have the Elite trigger. Also I am pretty sure that the Elites don't come with 2 barrels like the old OSPs did, but I am not guaranteeing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, tdo722 said: Suppressor sights is crucial if you put a red dot. In USPSA, no one really cares about sights on their carry ops guns. I reckon that is why he don't care about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, tdo722 said: Suppressor sights is crucial if you put a red dot. I'd want some tall sights, or at least a front sight, if I didn't have a spare gun for the match. Otherwise it's just extra clutter in an already small window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, RJH said: In USPSA, no one really cares about sights on their carry ops guns. I reckon that is why he don't care about them Yes I agree on this. But it can be used as a backup for home defense when your battery is depleted. Also cosmetically, it looks great with the suppressor sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, RJH said: The picture is not an Elite because that gun doesn't have the Elite trigger. Also I am pretty sure that the Elites don't come with 2 barrels like the old OSPs did, but I am not guaranteeing that I think you are right. Here's a picture of the real ELITE model. I see the trigger is different and also the color of the cover for the milled OSP slot is different. That means 9/10 dealers online claiming ELITE is straight up scamming customers. Edited August 25, 2020 by tdo722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 reddots are basically toys at this point. None are reliable. This BUIS nonsense is just that. Nonsense to appease the tactical Timmy's with these gawdawful high gizmos. If you dont trust the dot, get some decent irons. Otherwise you end up with a big mess of a confusing sight picture that is worthless and slow for both games and defensive use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe4d said: reddots are basically toys at this point. None are reliable. This BUIS nonsense is just that. Nonsense to appease the tactical Timmy's with these gawdawful high gizmos. If you dont trust the dot, get some decent irons. Otherwise you end up with a big mess of a confusing sight picture that is worthless and slow for both games and defensive use. I agree with this. And may have to steal it at a later date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 reminds me of the idiotic high see through scope mounts people put on their hunting rifle because they didnt trust their Kmart special Tasco scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Joe4d said: reddots are basically toys at this point. None are reliable. This BUIS nonsense is just that. Nonsense to appease the tactical Timmy's with these gawdawful high gizmos. If you dont trust the dot, get some decent irons. Otherwise you end up with a big mess of a confusing sight picture that is worthless and slow for both games and defensive use. I actually don't use red dot or iron sight. I usually use the striker indicator pin to aim and it is 10 times faster than using iron sight and at least 2-3 times faster than a red dot. I've been doing it since I bought the very first XDM. For some reason, I can't never get a good aim with the iron sight. I can aim with red dot once it is zeroed in but any joe can do that so it's a moot point to argue. Edited August 25, 2020 by tdo722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdo722 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) For me, having a red dot, suppressor sights, threaded barrel, only for cosmetic reasons. I don't actually use any of that. Without all of that, the gun, well it's so ugly. Edited August 25, 2020 by tdo722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russty Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 12:08 PM, tdo722 said: I usually use the striker indicator pin to aim What? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I like the magwell, and would like to see how the trigger compares to some of the drop in aftermarket. I wonder if the funnel will fit a regular XDM frame ? Id have to loose the tall sights though, unless I was using a suppressor. Seems like a giant snag waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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