WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hello Members I recently acquired both the above 100 round gauges in 9mm. Out of a hundred rounds the Shock Bottle showed about 10 or so rounds sitting slightly high with one sitting a substantial bit higher. If I slightly push these rounds in they will go almost completely flush except for the extra high round. When I placed these rounds in the Armananov gauge they all read flush. What's that all about? I went to Shock Bottle's website and read the FAQ section. Seems to make sense. I did do the plunk and rotate test and the high rounds did pass except for the extra high round which passed in the Armananov gauge. The barrel is a Kart fitted for a RO. I really don't know if I want to keep the Armananov gauge. Any real world experiences and or comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) The shock bottle is the tightest gauge I have used, in addition to being rapid-fire because you’re case gauging 100 rounds at a time. I like it because of both attributes. Edited July 28, 2020 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Basically that's what I wondering about. Is the SB too tight and or the Armananov too loose? Which one should I go with? I'm kind of leaning toward the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Has anyone tried the Lyman 100 round gage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I like the SB because I can flip the rounds into my Dillon boxes. If I get one that is tight in the SB I check it in a Dillon gauge. If it passes the Dillon gauge It goes in the box, if not, it get recycled. I did not know Lyman made a 100 round gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 The SB seems perfect to me, others seem too tight or too loose. Remember, your barrel(s) are the ultimate and final gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 The trick is to find a gauge that is smaller than your barrels chamber. So if a round sits proud in your gauge and fits your barrel you know your good. What I have learned is to use a maximum cartridge gauge, instead of a gauge that is cut to minimum chamber dimensions. If your barrel is cut to minimum chamber dimensions, those dimensions are larger than a maximum case gauge dimensions. So any round that passes a maximum case gauge has to fit in a minimum cut chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, 12glocks said: I did not know Lyman made a 100 round gauge. I just happened to see it while shopping online for powder and primers. It was on sale for ~$80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixsomd Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Didn't know about Lyman either... I've got a EGW 50-round 9mm I got as a Match prize but looking to add a 100-round setupSent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, wdfwguy said: I just happened to see it while shopping online for powder and primers. It was on sale for ~$80. Where did you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I'll try and remember/find the site where I saw the sale... But they're on the Lyman website if you just want more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Also I just learned that this gauge is available as a "match" or "super match" grade. My unit is bare aluminum. Is this the super match unit? So is the anodized unit just the match grade? I did sent them a email for clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, wdfwguy said: I'll try and remember/find the site where I saw the sale... But they're on the Lyman website if you just want more details Yeah, I checked that out. But it is the full retail price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Called Dawson Precision. The gentleman stated that if the gauge is a "super" unit it will be marked as such. Also he stated the anodized gauges are slightly looser due to the anodizing process. Waiting on email from Shockbottle concerning this statement. Edited July 28, 2020 by WaltK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltK Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just got a reply from Shockbottle. Man do they have quick excellent service! Bare gauge is tight. Anodized gauge slightly looser. Who would have thought that. Case closed. Thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I don't know about shock bottle but my EGW 4 hole has no "throat". A sized case will gauge but a loaded round with any bearing surface above the case mouth will not. My Lyman single has a long throat so a new load must be verified by plonk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyVey Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I have both and I find the Armanov to be a tad tighter than the Shockbottle, both are anodized black, but the Shockbottle's holes are a bit rounded over while the Armanov have sharp edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I also have both; but I did get the Armanov Case Gauge 3-in-1 bundle that included the OAL Checker and Brass Marking Stencil. I find myself primarily using the Armanov which comes with the free flip cover. And, I like using the OAL Checker! This video offers up some of the highlights............... https://youtu.be/JQwHfFfmMJs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEar Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 7/27/2020 at 10:53 PM, MemphisMechanic said: The shock bottle is the tightest gauge I have used, in addition to being rapid-fire because you’re case gauging 100 rounds at a time. I like it because of both attributes. Tighter than EGW? Cuz I have the EGW and thinking to buy the Shockbottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Dedmon Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I have the Shockbottle in 9mm & 38 Super Comp, very pleased with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nc1911 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I use the SB gauge for 9mm If a round gauges slightly high it goes into the practice pile and the rest used for matches. Unless it is grossly bulged the slightly high rounds still perform 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightj75 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I have the armanov case guage in 9mm I got it with the 3 n 1 bundle and have been very happy with it. The armonov is tighter than the chamber of my competition guns so I know any round that passes will work in my barrels. Any rounds that don't I plunk in the tightest barrel and if it passes that then it goes in the practice can. Any round that doesn't goes in the pull pile. I've been extremely happy with it and everything that came in the bundle plus it all has its own neat box to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I've found with the SB gauge, that 99.99% of the time if a case is slightly high, it has some media on it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I don't get 99.99% but anything that doesn't gauge in my one-hole Wilson, I set aside and when I am done with the rest of the batch, I wipe them off and brush the gauge. Most but not all will fit then. We won't talk about the A-MERC cases that turned up in some range pickup the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 My hundo is tighter then all the 9mm barrels I have. I do find that every so often I will start to get a few cases not sitting flush in one hole but will in another hole. That's when I know it's time to clean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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