EngineerEli Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) I picked up one of the recent surplus Jericho 941F (Frame Safety full size 4.5 barrel) with HC finish. I have been watching for one of these for a while and when these showed up, and with the cool star emblem on engraved on the frame, I decided to pull the trigger. What can I say, these pistols are just plain cool, and supposedly shoot fantastic. I plan on just using this as a range gun, maybe a HD pistol if it proves to be reliable, which it should. I have been experimenting with compatibility and have posted a bit on someone else's topic, but I decided I would create my own. My preliminary research showed that these pistols are basically the same internally as older Tanfoglio witness pistols all except for the grips, and the hammer strut/spring which are the longer CZ design. So far I have successfully converted it from SA as it was purchased, and designated by the Israeli police force, to DA/SA. I was able to swap out the stock safety and add in the disconnector I had lying around from my Stock 2. It does function, but the hammer does not come all the way back in DA so a live fire test at the range will verify if it works acceptably or if it will need some more experimentation. The next thing I want to try, is to find a replacement safety lever, with a thumb ledge that is parallel to the barrel as all my other Tanfoglios are. I saw some 941s posted on GB that had these type of safeties so I know it is possible. I don't like the upward angled safety. These guns use the little tombstone shaped steel plate that nests into a pocket in the frame. It sounds like it MAY be compatible with very old Tanfoglio safeties, or possibly the polymer Tanfoglios even manufactured today. I am still trying to verify this and have not yet ordered any parts. If anyone can verify any of my suspicions about these safeties, please post here. Edited July 12, 2020 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1977 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I can’t wait to follow your experimentation on this. I have been wanting a used frame safety example with the Star of David as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I ordered two 941s a month ago (I may have to cancel my order and get them some other time---still haven't shipped and I don't care what "virus" excuses they use that's too long for a supposedly in-stock item) because I was researching their similarities to Tanfoglio/CZ and it seemed that they may really be a "best of both worlds" option. The original hammer strut/spring setup Tanfolgio's firing pin block that falls down instead of being pressed up and retains the firing pin retention plate Compatibility with virtually all mags---Mec Gar 17/19 (CZ) or Mec-Gar 17 (SF Tanfoglio) Found a couple threads on here about them: I already have a PD SF extended firing pin, spring, Dawson Front sight (baby eagle) and Tanfoglio adjustable match rear sight (made by LPA) as well as some LOK grips. I figured I'd have the guns by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 8:06 PM, EngineerEli said: The next thing I want to try, is to find a replacement safety lever, with a thumb ledge that is parallel to the barrel as all my other Tanfoglios are. I saw some 941s posted on GB that had these type of safeties so I know it is possible. I don't like the upward angled safety. These guns use the little tombstone shaped steel plate that nests into a pocket in the frame. It sounds like it MAY be compatible with very old Tanfoglio safeties, or possibly the polymer Tanfoglios even manufactured today. I am still trying to verify this and have not yet ordered any parts. If anyone can verify any of my suspicions about these safeties, please post here. that does look just like the inside of the safety on my polymer Tanfoglio, interesting that they run that version on a steel framed gun. I would look at one of the safety's off the newer polymer match pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) So I have a few findings to report. Another member here did me the favor of measure the width of his polymer frame and it is 1.105". Unfortunately this doesn't match my 941. The measurements I took off it this morning on my Jericho are; Frame width: 1.008" Safety Shaft dia: 0.157" Safety 'Hub' dia: 0.313" I'm also being told that the much older Tanfoglio steel framed safeties are compatible. Frame width is 0.998 and shaft dia is 0.156". Also looks like there is the possibility for the pre B CZ 75 safeties (single sided) at least to be compatible... http://apexgunsmithing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC02945.jpg http://apexgunsmithing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC02946-768x431.jpg Edited July 14, 2020 by EngineerEli Still struggling with image posting in the new forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Update! I ended up giving the double sided EAA safety a try that Kneelingatlas offered up, it seemed to be the only one who's measurements checked out. Ended up fitting perfectly. I though I may have had to fit the sear spring leg retaining slot in the safety shaft, but it seemed to fit just right. I of course had to stone the sear safety lobe a little but that is expected. I'll try to post some photos when I get a chance. @kneelingatlas Thanks for helping me out with this safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Great news Eli! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STAINLESS90 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Any chance you could provide a model or part number for that safety. I'm looking to do the same with the safety but can only find the pin side safety not the split middle safety shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) I'm not entirely sure what the PN is, the only marking on the package is on the price tag, from whoever originally sold it... Maybe 40.5984 is the PN? Promised pics of it installed: I ended up getting some fresher grips, and switching back to the origonal safety for the time being, I think this gun may turn more into a collectable than anything else... Edited January 20, 2022 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prob_solid Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Hello folks, New Jericho surplus owner here. I wanted ask, and check with you guys. The barrel I received with my 941F, is almost completely smooth. There are rifling marks, but light. Anyone else come across this? And what is the purpose? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker88 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Prob_solid said: Hello folks, New Jericho surplus owner here. I wanted ask, and check with you guys. The barrel I received with my 941F, is almost completely smooth. There are rifling marks, but light. Anyone else come across this? And what is the purpose? Thanks in advance. I believe Jericho’s have polygonal rifling… not the conventional rifling with lands and grooves. Barrels with polygonal rifling are believed to get less fouling and have longer life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 One of the few CZ/Tanfo/MagnumR. Guns I haven't owned. Really like the baby eagle too. I'm definitely down to pick up a Jericho one of these days. Good story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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