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What grain bullet are you X-Five Legion shooters using for competition?


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  With 9mm hard to come by I was hoping to skip the trial and error stage and buy what I need. Thanks for the input!

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124/5 gr bullets shoot best out of mine and it's a 9mm so recoil is not really a question unless you don't shoot much.

Then most favor 147's but 124gr/125gr bullets shoot more accurately out of my guns. FWIW

Posted

I’m using blue bullets 147. 

chrono’d today and came in at 135PF using 3.2 gr of TG. 
I tried 125,135,147 and the 147 felt the best to me. 

Posted

125 grain coated bullet, with 4 1/2 Grains Green Dot powder COAL 1.110 vel 1100 fps. Low recoil shoots real soft

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I don't reload, so my suggestions will be about off the shelf ammo.

 

124 grain seems to be the best.   Aguila and Federal American Eagle grouped the best for me.

I have some Freedom Munitions 135 HP and it's very close to those.

 

Oddly enough, the Federal Syntech 124 was not consistent at all, and I am still scratching my head as to why.   I'm bummed because I bought a bunch of it before I got my X5 because I had such good luck with the 150 Syntech in my CZs.

 

Anything in 147 or 150 is lousy for me (Syntech, Freedom Munitions).

 

I wonder if the Barsto barrels like the same ammo?

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6 hours ago, LMS said:

I don't reload, so my suggestions will be about off the shelf ammo.

 

124 grain seems to be the best.   Aguila and Federal American Eagle grouped the best for me.

I have some Freedom Munitions 135 HP and it's very close to those.

 

Oddly enough, the Federal Syntech 124 was not consistent at all, and I am still scratching my head as to why.   I'm bummed because I bought a bunch of it before I got my X5 because I had such good luck with the 150 Syntech in my CZs.

 

Anything in 147 or 150 is lousy for me (Syntech, Freedom Munitions).

 

I wonder if the Barsto barrels like the same ammo?

What’s wrong with the 147 in your gun? Accuracy ? Thanks 

Posted
55 minutes ago, Eli_a said:

What’s wrong with the 147 in your gun? Accuracy ? Thanks 

 

Yes - poor groups.   Ammo fed /cycled / ejected fine.

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20 hours ago, George16 said:

4.0 Gr of SP with PD 124 Gr JHP @1.125” OAL for 128-130 PF.

3.9 SP with 124 Berry's, nice load! I find the sights return faster with the 124's vs 147's.

Ed

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1 hour ago, LMS said:

 

Yes - poor groups.   Ammo fed /cycled / ejected fine.

I’m gonna get some 124gr and test those vs the 147 I’ve been using. A lot of people on here posted the same as you, I’m definitely gonna look into it.

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On 7/4/2020 at 9:05 AM, LMS said:

I don't reload, so my suggestions will be about off the shelf ammo.

 

124 grain seems to be the best.   Aguila and Federal American Eagle grouped the best for me.

I have some Freedom Munitions 135 HP and it's very close to those.

 

Oddly enough, the Federal Syntech 124 was not consistent at all, and I am still scratching my head as to why.   I'm bummed because I bought a bunch of it before I got my X5 because I had such good luck with the 150 Syntech in my CZs.

 

Anything in 147 or 150 is lousy for me (Syntech, Freedom Munitions).

 

I wonder if the Barsto barrels like the same ammo?

Bar Sto loves anything, plated or coated it kicks the oem barrels Butt on accuracy 

Posted
8 hours ago, Merldizzle said:

Bar Sto loves anything, plated or coated it kicks the oem barrels Butt on accuracy 

 

Damn, you know you just cost me a lot of money....  🤓

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On 7/4/2020 at 8:05 AM, LMS said:

 

Anything in 147 or 150 is lousy for me (Syntech, Freedom Munitions).

 

 

I found the same thing with my X5 Legion.  It absolutely hated Syntech ammo.  Horrible pattern especially if the barrel was hot.  As far as any 147 coated bullet I have put through my X5 Legions the groups were about the size of a grapefruits at 10 yds.  In every group there were always at least two fliers.  I would have chalked the fliers up to the shooter, but I had zero fliers in my 124 gr and 135 gr groups at 10 yds, where I had 2 fliers with every 147 gr group.  Tests were performed indoors on off the bench.   

 

I wish I could test the Bar Sto barrels before shelling out the cash.

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At 5 yards all holes better touch, at 10 yards they all better be within 1", at 25 yards I accept the size of my fist, 4" or so for a 5 shot group. In my own time, freestyle w good light.

 

To be honest the reason why I chased the 124/5 bullet route and the barsto barrel was some horrible accuracy with 147 when I first started shooting these guns. Then I had a friend shoot my gun and ammo. Surprise, it was me an my crap trigger control at the time for a striker fired gun that broke more towards the front than the back.

 

I worked like heck on it and surprise, going back to the stock barrel and 147gr bullets I   started shooting what was acceptable to me.

 

NOT that is what I'm saying anyone else is doing, but that's my story with this particular gun, bullet and barrel scenario.

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Does any one know the twist rate for the Sig barrels? Just guessing its 1 in 24  optimized for 124/125 nato.

Putting it on the line so to speak for 147s.

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On 7/8/2020 at 8:18 AM, LMS said:

 

Damn, you know you just cost me a lot of money....  🤓

you’re welcome 😊 

get it fitted and you’ll thank me haha

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Hello: I found 121,124 and 125 grain bullets to shoot the best. The 147 where not very accurate at 25 yards or more. The 115's where a little snappy but worked well. The 121-125 grain bullets work the best for me. It did not matter if they where jacketed, plated or coated. The powder I am using is Tite Group and also Clean Shot. Power factor is 131-134. Thanks, Eric

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On 7/8/2020 at 10:28 AM, AHI said:

Does any one know the twist rate for the Sig barrels? Just guessing its 1 in 24  optimized for 124/125 nato.

Putting it on the line so to speak for 147s.

In the owners manual under specs it says 1in 10.  Mine likes 124/5's better than 147's also.

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thank you . I have been asked to work up a load for some one.

with the reports of 147 not being accurate thought it may have one of

the slower twist.

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