900_DRIVER Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 I want to get a CZ for IDPA .It looks like the weight rule cancels out the shadow 2’s. 1) Is there any current catalogued gun that would be legal, ? 2) Is there any gun that I could make single action only (SAO) and still use for any division. If your a CZ shooter let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 You can't make any CZ pistol SAO and use it in SSP division in IDPA. But you could use it in ESP division if it has been converted to SAO, or even if it is SA/DA) A good all-around pistol for IDPA is the CZ 75SP01 Shadow 1. It has no firing pin safety, so it is easy to get a good trigger pull on these pistols. Start the COF with the hammer down and shoot it in SSP (Stock Service Pistol) division. Start the COF with the hammer cocked and the thumb safety engages and shoot it in ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) division. Add an optic and shoot the same pistol in CO (Carry Optics Division) division. Get a CZ 97 (caliber .45 ACP) and shoot in CDP (Custom Defensive Pistol) division Get a CZ75 Compact and shoot it in CCP (Concealed Carry) division. CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works does great work on these pistols,. There are several more variations/models that can be shot in the listed IDPA divisions, as well as the BUG (Back Up Gun) division, like the RAMI 2075 model. CZ makes a gun that can be shot in every IDPA division except revolver divisions. And I haven't even mentioned the polymer framed pistols, like the P-07, P-09, and P-10. Go to the CZ website and educate yourself on the attributes of the various pistols they sell. Then reference the IDPA "equipment rules" section in their website to see which pistol best matches the division you desire to participate in. Try to attend an IDPA match near you and observe and ask questions. Almost any competitor is willing to help newcomers. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWS Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 7:54 PM, 45 Raven said: You can't make any CZ pistol SAO and use it in SSP division in IDPA. But you could use it in ESP division if it has been converted to SAO, or even if it is SA/DA) A good all-around pistol for IDPA is the CZ 75SP01 Shadow 1. It has no firing pin safety, so it is easy to get a good trigger pull on these pistols. Start the COF with the hammer down and shoot it in SSP (Stock Service Pistol) division. Start the COF with the hammer cocked and the thumb safety engages and shoot it in ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) division. Try to attend an IDPA match near you and observe and ask questions. Almost any competitor is willing to help newcomers. Good luck! Good informative post and reply from 45 Raven I too have been thinking about adding a CZ to the stable and I'm looking at a CZ Shadow 2 Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 An optics ready P10f would be a very versatile idpa gun. Depending on mods you could shoot ssp esp and co. Make it a P10c optic ready and you could shoot ssp, esp, co and ccp by judicious modifications. Because of their design having an sp01 shadow is great to build it up in ssp rules. But have a spare set of grips and magwell that work together and shoot it clocked and locked in esp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 SSP- SP01 Shadow ESP- 75 Shadow, set up with a SAO trigger and magwell. You'll have to find this model used. CDP-97b or a DW 1911 gun CCP-manual safety P01 or P10C CO- SP01 Shadow with CZC optics cut Those would be my choices for a CZ gun in different idpa divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWS Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 5:33 AM, rowdyb said: SSP- SP01 Shadow ESP- 75 Shadow, set up with a SAO trigger and magwell. You'll have to find this model used. CDP-97b or a DW 1911 gun CCP-manual safety P01 or P10C CO- SP01 Shadow with CZC optics cut Those would be my choices for a CZ gun in different idpa divisions. thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 7:33 AM, rowdyb said: ESP- 75 Shadow, I really showed my character flaw by not buying one of those the short time they were cataloged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWS Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm looking at a CZ SP-01 SHADOW ORANGE as I have medium sized hands and the S2 might be a little large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWS Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Is this the 75 Shadow that is being referenced in the above post ? https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/cz-75-sp01-shadow-9mm-91154-black-cz-custom-exclusive.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, DWS said: Is this the 75 Shadow that is being referenced in the above post ? https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/cz-75-sp01-shadow-9mm-91154-black-cz-custom-exclusive.html No, not a sp01 but a 75 shadow, the short dust cover version. I've had 2 and I miss them badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DWS Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 R 5 minutes ago, rowdyb said: No, not a sp01 but a 75 shadow, the short dust cover version. I've had 2 and I miss them badly Rowdy - thank you sir ! Very helpful as I'm trying to get "smarter" on CZ's Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Or a 75 SAO w magwell in esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, rowdyb said: No, not a sp01 but a 75 shadow, the short dust cover version. I've had 2 and I miss them badly Rowdy, you could get one of these frames: https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-parts-kit-frame.html Add your choice of 75 slides (non-FP Block models), and have the trigger tuned. Then you would have virtually the same thing as the short dust cover Shadow 75, in SA only though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Ken6PPC said: Rowdy, you could get one of these frames: https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-parts-kit-frame.html Add your choice of 75 slides (non-FP Block models), and have the trigger tuned. Then you would have virtually the same thing as the short dust cover Shadow 75, in SA only though... That is a good plan, but thankfully I'm not the one in search of their CZ legal idpa gun like the OP hahaha. Though this did have me eyeing a few rarer P01 variants for CCP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Anyone know for certain if a shadow 1 target is esp legal? I thought I remembered stuff about full length dust cover guns had to first be ssp legal and if you bought 1 that was ssp legal you could then cut the slide to allow an adjustable sight install & it would be esp legal. Other thing, anybody know when the equipment rules will be changed again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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