bobert1 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 With a 2 year grace period I am curious if the ban includes PCC assault weapons. Assault Weapons was not my definition. It was the PM's. It doesn't mention caliber so I am wondering about 9mm carbines. Link to comment
ChuckS Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hi all, Bobert1's thread is asking if 9mm rifles fall under the Canadian ban. Any other post on anything other than answering the question will close the thread. That is all... Link to comment
John Boy Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/need-know-the-government-canadas-new-prohibition-certain-firearms-and-devices Lists the banned firearms. And has a complete list linked. I see several JP guns listed. But I’m not familiar with their line. Link to comment
RickT Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 While AR9 is not called out there is a prohibition against AR-15, AR-10, M4 carbine and M16 pattern receivers which would seem bans all manner of PCC? Link to comment
Sarge Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Well the JP GMR 15 is a 9mm. But so is a GMR 13 but it’s not listed. I think the catch all is the M4/AR 15 uppers are not legal. Ruger PCC is not listed either Link to comment
Sarge Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, RickT said: While AR9 is not called out there is a prohibition against AR-15, AR-10, M4 carbine and M16 pattern receivers which would seem bans all manner of PCC? Except maybe a Ruger. They list mini 14 and mini 30 though. Link to comment
John Boy Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 From the RCMP site, Sig stuff is on the list: SIG Sauer SIG MCX and SIG Sauer SIG MPX carbine and pistol Link to comment
ohsevenflhx Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 The CZ Scorpion, and Beretta CX4 are on the list. Any 9mm AR upper is banned too. No PCC in Canada unless your using the Ruger PC, it's not on the list.... Link to comment
ck1 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 MPX is on the Canadian ban list... someone posted a news channel screenshot on a MPX FB group. Link to comment
MikeyScuba Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Elections have consequences and we are reaping the whirlwinds of children pretending to be adults. Link to comment
Hooked Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) PCCs are not banned per se, but AR15 and AR15 variants as a group are banned. Specific models from specific manufacturers are banned but not all models from all manufacturers are banned. Edited May 2, 2020 by Hooked Link to comment
ChuckS Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 After talking to a friend in Saskatoon, I decided to reopen this thread. I have hidden the inappropriate post. This thread will remain open to discuss the technical details of the new law and any mitigation (if possible). Feel free to express sympathy for our brothers and sisters up North, but totally stay away from any political content. Link to comment
Supertrunk Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The interesting part is the addition of the Mini-14 series rifles. Not at all like the AR pattern ones; makes you wonder if they are trying to open the door to any style of semi-auto rifle, or any .223 / 5.56 and .308 center fires? Link to comment
Sarge Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Supertrunk said: The interesting part is the addition of the Mini-14 series rifles. Not at all like the AR pattern ones; makes you wonder if they are trying to open the door to any style of semi-auto rifle, or any .223 / 5.56 and .308 center fires? Agreed. The absence of the Ruger 9mm PC makes the inclusion of the mini 14 and 30 even more bewildering. Link to comment
GrumpyOne Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sarge said: Agreed. The absence of the Ruger 9mm PC makes the inclusion of the mini 14 and 30 even more bewildering. The Ruger PCC is essentially a 10/22 in 9mm form. The mini 14 and mini 30 are based on the M1 Garand / M14, which were military weapons. Link to comment
Chili Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Supertrunk said: The interesting part is the addition of the Mini-14 series rifles. Not at all like the AR pattern ones; makes you wonder if they are trying to open the door to any style of semi-auto rifle, or any .223 / 5.56 and .308 center fires? The inclusion of the Mini 14 is strictly based on the fact it was used in the 1989 Polytechnique shooting, The Beretta PX-4 made the list as it was used at another school shooting at Dawson college. Link to comment
MickB Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 As an example the QC10 GSF is listed as prohibited in Canada. However there are the QC5 and CLT lowers that are not listed. QC10 uppers are PCC specific and can be argued are not AR uppers.... Link to comment
sarpau Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Unfortunately there is no logic behind what was done, what was and wasn't included in the initial ban. And there is word that more bans are being drafted, as well as ammo and magazine restrictions. The only "legal" PCC I currently have left is the Ruger, but we'll see for how long. All Ar upper receivers are listed as prohibited due to the fact that they can be assembled to an AR lower. We're fighting it in court, will see how it plays out. May only be left with break action shotguns by the time this is all over. If anyone is open to adopting a few Canadians seeking freedom, there's a long list of willing candidates. I'm house broken and low maintenance, will work for ammo. Link to comment
optimator Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Good luck to you guys up there.... Link to comment
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