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New to reloading so be patient

 

my friend and I are going to start the journey into reloading, both using 9mm minor.  We are not competing in major events so chrono is not critical.  Looking for softer recoil and accuracy.

 

both shooting Atlas titans 

 

1. Any recommendations on best reloading book?

 

recommendations for powder charge on the following....

 

2. Using Berrys 147 gr. TMJ RN

3. CCI No. 500 primers

4. CFE powder

 

I know OAL of 1.165 will have some feed issues, bought some fenix ammo 147gr, and I think when the slide moves over the round in the mag the little push it gets caused a few issues.  Running MBX mags, not a mag problem.  Have no issues running Fed. Syntech red tip or purple tip.

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 I recommend BOOKS, plural.  When picking a starting point, I find it helpful to have 2 or even 3 sources to pull from. I have the Hornady 10th Edition, Lyman's 50th Anniversary , and a Sierra Edition 5, 7th print.  You can get a wide array of RECOMMENDATIONS from folks here, but your particular loads will always perform differently due to many different factors. 

 

** My opinion, but not participating at majors isn't really a good reason for NOT using a chrono.  If you're investing the money to make your own ammo, why not equip yourself with ALL of the tools necessary? A chrono will tell you more than if you're meeting the rules of a particular division's power factor. While that is important (even at local matches) it's not nearly as helpful as the data you'll gather and use as you increase your reloading knowledge and experience. 

 

The magazines are the Achilles heel of the 2011 platform. You picked some very good ones to run - I have had ZERO issues with my MBX magazines and my Atlas Nemesis.  Bullet profile means just as much.  Not all round nose is created equally.  To that end, I run NOTHING plated anymore. I'll use Blue Bullets,  Precision Delta jacketed or Rocky Mountain Reloaders jacketed or Jacket Hollow points. Hornady HAP is another favorite. I also prefer a 125/135 bullet in 9mm. Blue Bullets are good but even they cannot match the repeated precision of a quality jacketed bullet.  

 

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Have you purchase a press yet?
 

If not you need the ability to crank out volume of quality ammo. Do not go cheap, buy either the Dillon 1100/1050 or the Mark 7 equivalent. Why? Quality and the ability to swage the pockets.

If you are all in for the sport you’ll need 10-20 thousand rounds a year minimum. Plan accordingly .

 

Normal with TG, 320 or SP and a 147 grain bullet out of a 4.5” or longer barrel 3.2 +- .1 will always make PF.

 

Search the forum and you’ll find lots of loads and data.  

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36 minutes ago, Khaot1c said:

 I recommend BOOKS, plural.  When picking a starting point, I find it helpful to have 2 or even 3 sources to pull from. I have the Hornady 10th Edition, Lyman's 50th Anniversary , and a Sierra Edition 5, 7th print.  You can get a wide array of RECOMMENDATIONS from folks here, but your particular loads will always perform differently due to many different factors. 

 

** My opinion, but not participating at majors isn't really a good reason for NOT using a chrono.  If you're investing the money to make your own ammo, why not equip yourself with ALL of the tools necessary? A chrono will tell you more than if you're meeting the rules of a particular division's power factor. While that is important (even at local matches) it's not nearly as helpful as the data you'll gather and use as you increase your reloading knowledge and experience. 

 

The magazines are the Achilles heel of the 2011 platform. You picked some very good ones to run - I have had ZERO issues with my MBX magazines and my Atlas Nemesis.  Bullet profile means just as much.  Not all round nose is created equally.  To that end, I run NOTHING plated anymore. I'll use Blue Bullets,  Precision Delta jacketed or Rocky Mountain Reloaders jacketed or Jacket Hollow points. Hornady HAP is another favorite. I also prefer a 125/135 bullet in 9mm. Blue Bullets are good but even they cannot match the repeated precision of a quality jacketed bullet.  

 

Thanks, order one book, will order more

 

Got any chrono recommendations?

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15 minutes ago, HesedTech said:

Have you purchase a press yet?
 

If not you need the ability to crank out volume of quality ammo. Do not go cheap, buy either the Dillon 1100/1050 or the Mark 7 equivalent. Why? Quality and the ability to swage the pockets.

If you are all in for the sport you’ll need 10-20 thousand rounds a year minimum. Plan accordingly .

 

Normal with TG, 320 or SP and a 147 grain bullet out of a 4.5” or longer barrel 3.2 +- .1 will always make PF.

 

Search the forum and you’ll find lots of loads and data.  

Going with 750, we shoot maybe 9 matches a year right now.  

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http://www.competitionelectronics.com/product/prochrono-dlx/

Amazon and a few other vendors carry it. Use an app on your phone or tablet to collect your data. Save and share your data in PDF format.

I also use a spreadsheet to keep the loads that do the best. One "tab" at the bottom for every caliber. Be sure to include the gun or barrel that you used when you ran the test.

LibreOffice has a great FREE spreadsheet if you don't have Microsoft Excel


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33 minutes ago, Pgosnell said:

Going with 750, we shoot maybe 9 matches a year right now.  

750 is good, I had the 650 and probably loaded over 20k through it. However, if I had to do it over I would have gone right to the 1050/1100. 
 

Most of your ammo will be used for practice. Typical matches are 200-300 rounds which means your annual match needs are about 2500 rounds and then at minimum double that amount for practice. 
 

It all depends on your desired level of participation. Hey you have an Atlas gun and that ain’t no slouch!
 

Have a great time and keep searching the forum for help. Someone has probably already had the same issues and needs you will have. 

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31 minutes ago, HesedTech said:

750 is good, I had the 650 and probably loaded over 20k through it. However, if I had to do it over I would have gone right to the 1050/1100. 
 

Most of your ammo will be used for practice. Typical matches are 200-300 rounds which means your annual match needs are about 2500 rounds and then at minimum double that amount for practice. 
 

It all depends on your desired level of participation. Hey you have an Atlas gun and that ain’t no slouch!
 

Have a great time and keep searching the forum for help. Someone has probably already had the same issues and needs you will have. 

Also looking at 1050 too, read that typically 9mm brass doesn't need swaged

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18 minutes ago, HesedTech said:

If you use range brass lots of it today has crimped primer pockets. However if you sort your head stamps it won’t be an issue. 

What do I want to sort out?  I cant imagine crimped 9mm brass will be more than 10 percent of the range brass???

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12 minutes ago, AHI said:

90% of the 9mm range brass that i receive  has crimped primer pockets .

When I was loading on a 650 I sorted out the crimped pockets, steel, aluminum, and brass with internal steps. 
 

These days I don’t sort crimped pockets, but CBC brass with deep seated 147s won’t run in some of my guns.  They slightly bulge because of the thicker taper. 
 

Head stamp sorting is a popular topic on the forum.  Check it out. 

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17 minutes ago, AHI said:

most comes from indoor range .  lots of military over runs have been sold the last few years.

Last winchester white box had crimped primers. Rem ,IMI the list goes on.

Could you.post a pic of a crimped primer on 9mm, I sorted thru about 60 randoms and cant identify any that looked crimped.  I have googled pics.

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