Dan Sierpina Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 22 hours ago, TonytheTiger said: I love mine. I wish the dot was Razor bright but thats my only complaint. I rank it between the PST gen 2 and Razor, but leaning closer to the Razor. For $815 its a hell of a scope. I thought about this scope, I don't like uncapped turrets, not for a scope with a BDC reticle. There are a few "comedians" that play games. 2 friends that have run uncapped turrets have had their zero wander a hell of a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said: I thought about this scope, I don't like uncapped turrets, not for a scope with a BDC reticle. There are a few "comedians" that play games. 2 friends that have run uncapped turrets have had their zero wander a hell of a lot. They are locking turrets, which prevents accidents. Might not defend against hooligans though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, TonytheTiger said: They are locking turrets, which prevents accidents. Might not defend against hooligans though. The lock is simply pull the turret up, then turn? Both friends had guns in racks when the "mishap" occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Correct. 5 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said: The lock is simply pull the turret up, then turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 No Zero stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 It does have a zero stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 That is good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Got my razor 1-10, shot it back to back with my ATACR and Kahles. Short fast medium distance matches out to say 300 I will run the Kahles, if I have to reach out it will be the new Vortex from now on. The Nightforce is too tight in the eyebox and fov for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avastcosmicarena Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) On 4/27/2020 at 4:52 PM, inertia said: Got my razor 1-10, shot it back to back with my ATACR and Kahles. Short fast medium distance matches out to say 300 I will run the Kahles, if I have to reach out it will be the new Vortex from now on. The Nightforce is too tight in the eyebox and fov for my taste. How's the eyebox/FOV vs the Kahles/Swaro? If you're beyond 300, it seems like running the Kahles/Swaro at the full 8x with SFP wouldn't be that big of a deal. Edited April 30, 2020 by avastcosmicarena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Nothing has fov like the Kahles and Swaros do and neither does the Vortex but its a ffp scope and I just prefer to run ffp on anything where I need to go past 6x. Also my kahles is the 1-6 I don't know if anyone has the new 1-8 yet. The small light kahles is great for most matches since I like a light rifle. Just all personal preference thats why I dropped $3k on the nightforce that ended up being a bit of a letdow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric90503 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Coming from the 1st Gen Vortex Razor 1-6, I've got the Vortex 1-10 and Kahles 1-8 in my sights. Looking forward to the weight reduction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnVacation Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 6:51 PM, Dan Sierpina said: Both friends had guns in racks when the "mishap" occurred. guns in racks are like strippers: okay to look but NO TOUCHING!!! Someone needs to get their hand smacked for that tom foolery that said, I run the Trijicon 1-8. I like it, but it's heavy. Price wise though I think there is an argument that it finds a sweet spot at under 875 for an FFP illuminated scope. There are nicer scopes, and cheaper scopes, but the accupower had the balance I was looking for. though, if I had more funds, I'd go for the vortex 1-10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSHMJ Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Look at the Sig Tango 6 3gun hellfire. Thing is a beauty. Crystal clear glass with a red dot center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, NOSHMJ said: Look at the Sig Tango 6 3gun hellfire. Thing is a beauty. Crystal clear glass with a red dot center. The Sig is discontinued though still available @ Brownells for $870, close in price to the C2 from Cmore. Both are Japanese glass, no idea if one is better than the other. Suspect Tony the Tiger knows. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSHMJ Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Look at the Sig Tango 6 3gun hellfire. Thing is a beauty. Crystal clear glass with a red dot center. https://www.sigsauer.com/store/tango6t-1-6x24-mm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangedays Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Go with the vortex! There is a reason everyone keeps mentioning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 11:35 AM, mpom said: The Sig is discontinued though still available @ Brownells for $870, close in price to the C2 from Cmore. Both are Japanese glass, no idea if one is better than the other. Suspect Tony the Tiger knows. Mark Only looked through one briefly. Eyebox and reticle were a no-go for me, didn't get as far as comparing glass quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddDavey Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 7:36 PM, TonytheTiger said: I love mine. I wish the dot was Razor bright but thats my only complaint. I rank it between the PST gen 2 and Razor, but leaning closer to the Razor. For $815 its a hell of a scope. Where can I find a CMore for $815? I would be all over one at that price to replace my MTAC! Their site has them listed for $1300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ToddDavey said: Where can I find a CMore for $815? I would be all over one at that price to replace my MTAC! Their site has them listed for $1300 PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwink Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I know Tony had some interest early on, but anyone using Meopta Optika 1-6 SFP or FFP .223 illuminated reticle, I've heard both are options now. Or the Meopta R2 1-6 with BDC 3 reticle? I think most will agree if you're gonna spend the the money get the Razor Gen 2 E or Gen 3, but what's second best for a few hundred less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Best? It doesn't exist. All scopes are a compromise in some respect. You need to prioritize what's most important to you and pick one, shoot it till you can't get it wrong and stick with it. Proficiency trumps any feature mentioned on any of the scopes in this thread. 6X, 8X, 10X no difference if you know how to use it. Kahle, Swarovski, Vortex, Leupold, etc etc,,, all clear enough for the task. The reticle is the single most important feature of my scope choice. Time and experience dictated what reticle works best for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 14 hours ago, lwink said: I know Tony had some interest early on, but anyone using Meopta Optika 1-6 SFP or FFP .223 illuminated reticle, I've heard both are options now. Or the Meopta R2 1-6 with BDC 3 reticle? I think most will agree if you're gonna spend the the money get the Razor Gen 2 E or Gen 3, but what's second best for a few hundred less? Also was interested in Optika 1-6, but read somewhere that while glass was very good, reticle was not "daylight bright". Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 11 hours ago, mpeltier said: Best? It doesn't exist. All scopes are a compromise in some respect. You need to prioritize what's most important to you and pick one, shoot it till you can't get it wrong and stick with it. Proficiency trumps any feature mentioned on any of the scopes in this thread. 6X, 8X, 10X no difference if you know how to use it. Kahle, Swarovski, Vortex, Leupold, etc etc,,, all clear enough for the task. The reticle is the single most important feature of my scope choice. Time and experience dictated what reticle works best for me. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 The C-More C3 is on sale for the weekend. $800, so just over $300 shipped if you use the $500 off discount code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, TonytheTiger said: The C-More C3 is on sale for the weekend. $800, so just over $300 shipped if you use the $500 off discount code. Tony do you have a link to the code? I could use another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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